Team Fortress 2
scheme Jan 19, 2016 @ 6:24pm
Real meaning of "crutch", "broken" and "OP/UP"
What`s the real meaning of these terms, you might be askins (probably not)
This is a survey asking for these answers: here, it`s on google docs[goo.gl]
Don`t worry if your answer isn`t there, hit other and post here

also, discussion thread about these things. Please avoid starting wars

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Pakaku Jan 19, 2016 @ 6:32pm 
and don't use mini-sentries on KOTH
Don't tell me whatta do

doolas Jan 19, 2016 @ 6:34pm 
still doesnt work
scheme Jan 19, 2016 @ 6:36pm 
Originally posted by doolas:
still doesnt work
did you put a dot between "goo" and "gl"?
Crutch: A weapon that allows the use to counter one of their class' own counters.

Example: The DDS is a crutch because it allows a Sniper to survive a single headshot.

Broken: Offers an unfair advantage.

Example: The Huntsman is broken due to its increased headshot hitbox.

OP/UP: Incredibly broken/useless

Example: The Sun on a Stick has no use and is under-powered.
noahdvs Jan 19, 2016 @ 8:06pm 
Crutch: An easier to use weapon that gets less effective the more skilled you are. If you have a broken leg, you need a crutch to walk. If you can walk and run, the crutch only holds you back.

Broken: Something with major issues. Can include crutches, UP/OP and stuff that doesn't really have a name for what it is. The Phlog is underpowered against good players and better than most weapons against bad players. It's not in a good place, so something is broken.

UP: Not useful enough or not powerful enough. Should be fairly obvious.
The Heavy's shotgun is not a bad weapon, but if he uses the minigun, it's not useful enough to use over the sandvich or chocolate bar most of the time. The Sun-On-A-Stick is just too weak.

OP: Too useful or too powerful. Should be fairly obvious.
The Jag was too useful compared to stock. The DDS gives an unfair advantage in sniper vs sniper fights.
Last edited by noahdvs; Jan 19, 2016 @ 8:09pm
noahdvs Jan 19, 2016 @ 8:10pm 
Also, that poll is kind of poorly put together.
"Select only one of the definitions even if more than one applies"
Last edited by noahdvs; Jan 19, 2016 @ 8:10pm
Fahrenheit Jan 19, 2016 @ 9:00pm 
I beleive that we have Urban Dic for these kinda things but I will say the deffinition from my understanding.

Crutch: In video games, usually a weapon, class, hero, etc that is fun for noobs but offers no enjoyment if you want to apply skills and have fun. Does not break game or make game unplayable.

Ex: Old Degreaser + anything. Bonus points if with old old axtinguisher.

Broken: In video games, usually a weapon, class, hero, etc that was intended in development to play a certain way is expoitable either through an oversight of developers or through a bug. It is unintentional. Usually is used to discribe a powerful subject but can be used to discribe a weak one. Either way, it breaks the game and substracts enjoyment from game.

Ex: Old Saharan Spy set.

OP: Overpowered. Not sure but I think Smogon coined this. Intentional and may be game breaking, but not required to be. Development made it like that way on purpose.

Ex: Stock weapons in general.

UP: Underpowered. Smogon used this a lot too. Intentionally weak and may or may not be game breaking.

Ex: Unlocks in general.
Last edited by Fahrenheit; Jan 19, 2016 @ 9:01pm
ezpzlemonsqueezy Dec 21, 2020 @ 11:59pm 
Well crutch has meaning in tons of ways. (like gaming.)
thepicgamer Dec 22, 2020 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by ま☆(ツ)☆ま:
Well crutch has meaning in tons of ways. (like gaming.)
crutchposter
bunnyzooka Dec 22, 2020 @ 12:13am 
Did you notice how old this thread is
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