Why is everybody embargo hater

[KRAZY 2 K00L ZKARY ZNIPPA GUY]

Why yall hate embargo except the voices

[Martlet]

I mean, I like the map, I just think it looks a little flat, that it could have used another art pass, but other than that, it's fantastic, I love the announcers for each team and how each point feels like its own seperate map, it's honestly one of the best maps they could have added in years.

[rin]

Voices and it's not one of the 6 maps I have played for a decade so it's instantly bad, I have recently just started to accept pier (Dec 3 2020 smissmas map) so give me another 5 years.

[k4far]

Embargo does not conform with tf2 map making guidelines
Map colours are supposed to be natural / washed out and as in original maps
Bright vivid colours do not belong in tf2

[Zumo Nacho INC]

Most arguments ive seen against it is "its looks like an Overwatch map" and is such a dumb thing to deem a map bad

[gianni]

it's genuienly a ♥♥♥♥ map that's why. having 14 mappers put their professional spin on the map just for it to turn into a breadspace clone is honestly the funniest part about the update.

you only see people soy over the useless details like how pretty the artstyle is or how they got le new announcer because the map plays poorly and is just a series of dumb chokes funneling into garbage areans that are horrible to play in being obscured by an appealing theme.

[rin]

Originally posted by ZumoNacho INC:

Most arguments ive seen against it is "its looks like an Overwatch map" and is such a dumb thing to deem a map bad

Sorry but map aesthetics are extremely important quality to determining if a map is good or bad. If it was all dev textures you'd complain, if it looks terrible, I'll complain. And it does look terrible.

[the godmaker]

It looks terrible, does not follow TF2 artsyle and is poorly made.

[rin]

Originally posted by the godmaker:

It looks terrible, does not follow TF2 artsyle and is poorly made.

so simple yet so right.....

[jlds]

I really hate the way it's laid out, it doesn't look like TF2 and the music...

AHHH MAKE IT STOP!!! WHY?

[Spartykins]

I said in another thread that it highlights what's needed to make maps a bit more memorable in that something unique happens (several in this case) but something still felt off with the color

I haven't really played it enough to give a good judgement on the gameplay unfortunately, which honestly is one of the more important things to judge a level on so...

[SimplySmiley]

It looks flat in few places (last 2 points are empty as hell with long clear sightlines for sniper.
While in others it's too detailed (1st and especially 2nd points) so enemy blends in with the environment.

[SimplySmiley]

Originally posted by Spartykins:

I said in another thread that it highlights what's needed to make maps a bit more memorable in that something unique happens (several in this case) but something still felt off with the color

I haven't really played it enough to give a good judgement on the gameplay unfortunately, which honestly is one of the more important things to judge a level on so...

The colours are too saturated and there' too much of the team colours.
1st point inside the building for example, whole walls are bright red, classes tend to blend in with it instead of standing out like on the older maps.

[Alvy]

Style over substance. It's an eye-candy VScript flex that plays like ♥♥♥♥ and doesn't even look like TF2.

Most people who voted for Embargo (and Odyssey too) are people who saw screenshots on Twitter or Reddit and didn't even bother to try it out.

[Astyl]

The aesthethics don't fit into tf2. Many such cases.

[Yellow Dice]

Odyssey plays better than Embargo tbh. But I think both are good maps.

Megaton's a travesty all around there's no saving that map from sniper hell.