why do people like 2fort?

[Six]

it's iconic, i know... but...

this is the only map in the game that promotes and enables some of the most VILE forms of camping and turtling in the entire game.

engineer's can camp virtually any corner,
snipers can lock down the only outside section,
matches can last anywhere from 20 minutes to 4 hours and usually only end once one team is able to hold the other team in a spawncamp cycle...

like bro... it's so bad that if the enemy team manages to secure YOUR intel room, they can effectively hold it for upwards of 20 minutes (at least from what i've witnessed) effectively softlocking the game until it's dealt with

how is this enjoyable??

if you want a map that has long rounds WITHOUT camping and that still has a lot of noobs, play ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hightower lol. get cursed the ♥♥♥♥ out of existence by playing gunslinger engie on hightower or smth.

I just don't understand why anyone would WANT to play on ONLY 2fort... it's such an ass map. ICONIC, yes, but still ass in practice

[76561199626345169]

People who play 2fort have no braincells (I'm one of them)

[Ulysses]

Because 3 fort is never coming out

[BIG MONKEY]

hive mind

[Bad Medic Buddy]

because you don't have to play the objective seriously you can just camp or endless attack the enemy with 0 consequences

[Mannamannaa]

It's the quintessential "goofing off" map. You don't play teufort to win matches. You play teufort to farm strange counts on roomtemp iq snipers, make conga lines, and spam the intelligence announcer voicelines. Eventually some scout decides to actually cap intel and then the cycle starts all over again when the map reloads.

[Six]

Originally posted by Mannamannaa:

It's the quintessential "goofing off" map. You don't play teufort to win matches. You play teufort to farm strange counts on roomtemp iq snipers, make conga lines, and spam the intelligence announcer voicelines. Eventually some scout decides to actually cap intel and then the cycle starts all over again when the map reloads.

this is fun? im all for goofing around but the entire map facilitates bad playstyles and is softlocked with ease

[Spartykins]

simplicity and quick fights

people turn their brain off and frag, even if the layout makes fragging kind of terrible imo

turbine feels better because there's more room in mid to maneuver around and everyone hates turbine

[UNBREAKABLE]

Besides goofing off - the nature of 2fort lets people get away with playstyles that are easily shutdown on better maps. The enclosed spaces and predictable paths leave less options for movement so it's easier for everyone to shut each other down with basic things like spam.

The game flow in general is more FFA deathmatch and occasionally stopping the moron spy trying to cap every life.

[Your Lord and Savior]

You don't play 2Fort to play a CtF match, you play 2Fort for the classic TF2 experience

[Six]

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

Besides goofing off - the nature of 2fort lets people get away with playstyles that are easily shutdown on better maps. The game flow in general is more deathmatch and occasionally stopping the moron spy trying to cap.

i disagree. i find that playstyles i try to employ DONT work. unless my playstyle is turtling with engineer or sniper.

it's really hard in my opinion, to play pick classes or classes that excel in 1v1 fights... because the map is so small that there ARE no 1v1 fights... the moment you try to engage in one, you are going to get rushed by like 2 other people. you can't even play spy effectively on 2fort bc it's damn near impossible not to bump people in the tight ass hallways that make up 40% of the map

[Six]

Originally posted by Your Lord and Savior:

You don't play 2Fort to play a CtF match, you play 2Fort for the classic TF2 experience

if the classic tf2 experience is being spawncamped and unable to walk into the enemy base due to the 3 sentries, then sure

[UNBREAKABLE]

Originally posted by Six:

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

Besides goofing off - the nature of 2fort lets people get away with playstyles that are easily shutdown on better maps. The game flow in general is more deathmatch and occasionally stopping the moron spy trying to cap.

i disagree. i find that playstyles i try to employ DONT work. unless my playstyle is turtling with engineer or sniper.

it's really hard in my opinion, to play pick classes or classes that excel in 1v1 fights... because the map is so small that there ARE no 1v1 fights... the moment you try to engage in one, you are going to get rushed by like 2 other people. you can't even play spy effectively on 2fort bc it's damn near impossible not to bump people in the tight ass hallways that make up 40% of the map

Sounds like FFA deathmatch to me.

[Six]

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

Originally posted by Six:

i disagree. i find that playstyles i try to employ DONT work. unless my playstyle is turtling with engineer or sniper.

it's really hard in my opinion, to play pick classes or classes that excel in 1v1 fights... because the map is so small that there ARE no 1v1 fights... the moment you try to engage in one, you are going to get rushed by like 2 other people. you can't even play spy effectively on 2fort bc it's damn near impossible not to bump people in the tight ass hallways that make up 40% of the map

Sounds like FFA deathmatch to me.

wdym

[Lucifer ★✬]

caz its fun to learn to rocket jump and sniping there

hell, bacjk whe duelling mini games first came out id join 2fort. see if there were any snipers on my level and sniper duel them. the number if times i would see "why cant i change classes" from the dude i was duelling was golden, even more so when they would leave so they could change class, inso making me atto win

[Six]

Originally posted by Lucifer ★✬:

caz its fun to learn to rocket jump and sniping there

hell, bacjk whe duelling mini games first came out id join 2fort. see if there were any snipers on my level and sniper duel them. the number if times i would see "why cant i change classes" from the dude i was duelling was golden, even more so when they would leave so they could change class, inso making me atto win

ah but see, you thrived on playing sniper. 2fort is really only good for snipers and engies (maybe the sticky trapping demo too) bc it facilitates camping playstyles

which i don't personally find very fun