pyro gas passer Crit inconsistentcy's

[p4ka]

so, with the new summer update, the Neon Annihilator was given this buff: "Fixed the Neon Annihilator not getting crit-attacks when hitting players covered with gas." However, if not bugged, its implementation is entirely ridiculously designed. Gas applies a state that calls the players wet. But after taking any damage, the enemy is re (the primary weapon's gimmick; therefore, removing the effect renders your cit useless. In addition, the game doesn't seem to run a check on if the enemy was already on fire, so from there, it's a guessing game of "is the fire from before i hit them with the gas passer or did they take 1 random chip damage meaning i instantly die without a crit" if this is not the intended way the mechanic is meant to be implemented, I hope the team finds a fix soon if it IS the way the mechanic is designed, WHY??? i understand that it makes sense logically but it means that if the enemy takes any damage at all youre just ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Shiro]

Well its because the mechanic isn't designed this way. They merely gave gas passer + neon interaction after listening to community's "why gas passer's soak doesn't interact with neon" and thinking "eh why not, gas passer sucks and pyroshark is just a meme anyway". Actually making it work is not their job.

Gas passer's one and only intended function is soft area denial, causing burn on enemy groups who try to cross. Of course it kinda sucks at that due to being too soft (damage isn't fast and can be stopped w any extinguish, or simply outhealed). I suppose gas passer + neon could be sometimes used as solo elimination tool on weaker enemies, but its cooldown is too long to use that constantly and it just feels as "pop it dont drop it" thing to do (at least killing a weak enemy instead of dying before finding a crowd to use it on) - aside the fact you don't lose gas passer charge on death.

[Lites]

Wait I'm confused, so you're asking why aren't they still considered wet after being ignited being covered in gas?

[Hell-met]

its not inconsistent at all you just wish it worked differently.

thats on you for getting excited over a big bowl of nothing

[Talon]

Remember: Less bad is still bad.

Pyro's other options are still better for damage. A crit punch with a flare gun, and even the Detonator, is better than the Neon + Passer combo. The Neon + Passer combo is just a meme and will remain so even if Valve buffs the Gas Passer's recharge rate some or reduces the amount of damage needed to recharge it.

In fact, this combo is better when working completely alone because a single stray bullet will inflict an overriding afterburn DoT and screw over the follow up crit hit.

[Hell-met]

Originally posted by Talon:

Remember: Less bad is still bad.

Pyro's other options are still better for damage. A crit punch with a flare gun, and even the Detonator, is better than the Neon + Passer combo. The Neon + Passer combo is just a meme and will remain so even if Valve buffs the Gas Passer's recharge rate some or reduces the amount of damage needed to recharge it.

or axtinguisher just being easier and better than the new neon gimmick

[Talon]

Originally posted by Hell-met:

Originally posted by Talon:

Remember: Less bad is still bad.

Pyro's other options are still better for damage. A crit punch with a flare gun, and even the Detonator, is better than the Neon + Passer combo. The Neon + Passer combo is just a meme and will remain so even if Valve buffs the Gas Passer's recharge rate some or reduces the amount of damage needed to recharge it.

or axtinguisher just being easier and better than the new neon gimmick

People using this combo after the initial 'hype wave' likely will not care. If you're doing something for the memes, you do not care about efficiency.

[CAT_ATACK]

Originally posted by Talon:

Originally posted by Hell-met:

or axtinguisher just being easier and better than the new neon gimmick

People using this combo after the initial 'hype wave' likely will not care. If you're doing something for the memes, you do not care about efficiency.

Aye, its a combo more like Trolldier than it is like Jarate Bushwacka.

Its viable, but more for the funny ha-ha's than for any sort of hardcore competitive gameplay.