100+ of Different Threads Against Friendlies and About Raising Up Issues With Them {+} Statistics

[Tutu 🤍™🖤 ~^^)]

Before I start, you're free to form your own opinion, and I don't force you to take any sides.

You should decide for yourself, and you deserve to have your own opinion because you're a free individual!

I also kindly ask you to be constructive, and if you don't feel like engaging in a proper way, I persynally think the better choice is to not to for your own sake.

I'm just here to point out issues I consider the main in the Team Fortress community.

Anyways, ^this thread^ serves as a source of useful and undeniable information for you to see, learn and take notes from if you want to educate yourself and other unaware/uninformed/doubtful of friendlies people, erase misconceptions I consider pretty dangerous for the game, and acquire solid arguments that could be used if you're anti-friendly to support both your claims and point of views against problematic friendlies, this can also serve as a showcase.

Linked Anti-Friendly threads here are mostly from the TF2 SCUD ("General Discussions" Forum, to be specific) with more thought given to it and an appealing to the eye design.

With this intro out of the way, we may proceed.

I present you,

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can we all agree that friendlies are the worst *players* in tf2
friendly players should be hardware banned

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• Undeniable Evidence that Friendlies are Worse than Cheaters [Rewritten 2024 Edition]
  

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• Extras From the Marked Posts (UEtFaWtC [+] SAafFTdA)
  

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• How to Deal With Friendlies Most Efficiently
  

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• Friendlies Are Ruining TF2, and Here's 20 Reasons Why
  

• Friendlies are ruining casual.
  

• Soundsmith’s video on friendlies and "tryhards"
  

• Toofty's video on friendlies
  

• The Final Battle Between Good and Neutrality
  

• Let's Help Friendlies Find Their Way Home!
  

• Idling Prevention Methods
  

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• A Whole New Terminology for Different Types of Friendlies
  
• How to solve the friendly problem
  
• How to Solve the Friendly Issue Once and for All
  
• Friendlies are Worse than [...]
  
• To people who kick/kill friendlies.
  
• Friendlys are bad for tf2
  
• why do vsh friendlies decide its a good idea?
  
• Friendlies are [...] Griefers
  
• Being "Friendly" is Basically Griefing
  
• Message to friendly killers
  
• New player, I think im hating friendlies already
  
• Vote Kicked for killing friendly scouts
  
• Why you should kill and kick friendly players
  
• Friendlies are actually the real tryhards!
  
• kicked for playing the game properly, again
  
• Dear friendlies; why is it fun to be friendly?
  
• are friendlies a waste of server space?
  
• "Friendly" players
  
• Friendlies should be killed on sight. ( * )
  
• Why friendlies are dangerous for tf2
  
• How do I block Friendlies in Casual Gamemode?
  
• How We Can Get Rid [...] and Friendlies
  
• Friendlies are just as bad as bots
  
• Why are there friendlies on CASUAL matchmaking?
  
• Friendlies are a [...] on official servers
  
• do not be friendly in a casual match
  
• Getting votekicked for killing "friendlies"
  
• Why i hate friendlies ( ** )
  
• Love entitled friendly players
  
• Friendlies are getting out of hand.
  
• friendlies must be killed on sight ( *a different one )
  
• Why Friendlies are destroying TF2
  
• why friendlys ruin the game
  
• Why I hate friendlies ( **a different one )
  
• I really hate friendlies
  
• All friendlies should be votekicked.
  
• Friendlies should be the ones that are kicked
  
• How will we neutralise friendlies?
  
• My Problems and Experiences with Friendlies
  
• Shaking my head at these friendlies
  
• To all friendlies
  
• The Friendly Bullies
  
• Opinions on friendlies?
  
• Votekick: Friendly
  
• Friendlies in hightower...
  
• Friendly players -_-
  
• An open letter to all friendlies/friendly lovers
  
• Friendlies dont friendly on [...] valve servers.
  
• Friendlies ruined this game
  
• I hate friendlies
  
• im done with friendlies
  
• Friendlies should be stopped.
  
• friendlies are [...] lol
  
• Friendlies are big problem
  
• get rid of friendlies
  
• Please remove friendlies
  
• kicked for killing "friendlies"
  
• Friendlies are worse than hackers and here is why
  
• Why we SHOULD kill friendlies
  
• TF2: Friendlies are ruining the game
  
• Proof that friendlies are worse than cheaters
  
• What's the difference between a griefer and a friendly?
  
• Can we please remove every friendly?
  
• bruh i get kicked for killing friendlies
  
• Friendlies Are a Medic Main's Worst Nightmare
  
• Please stop kicking people for killing friendlies
  
• Being friendly should be permamently ban able!
  
• To all people kicking people for killing friendlies
  
• Why I kill and hunt down friendlies
  
• Got kicked for killing friendlies in a casual server
  
• Friendly Players in Valve Servers are Ruining TF2
  
• Votekick is WAY too easily abusable my friendlies.
  
• I don't care if you're friendly
  
• It is the duty of every good TF2 player to votekick friendlies
  
• I was kicked from a 2fort server for killing friendlies
  
• I now know why everyone hates friendlies
  
• "Is it really that hard to go just join a friendly server?"
  
• "Tryhard"
  
• Best way to kill friendlys?
  
• Kill all friendlies
  
• VAC Ban Friendlies
  
• [...] are far more beneficial to Team Fortress 2 compared to Friendlies.
  
• ban friendlies for griefing in casual
  
• tf2 pls ban every friendlies
  
• Friendly in Competitive
  
• Friendlies should be stopped.
  
• friendlies are worse than [...]
  
• So apparently friendlies are griefing the game while claiming they are [...]
  
• all people who are "friendly"
  
• Friendlies...
  
• How to deal with the "friendly" players?
  
• Friendlies posing an issue
  
• friendlys are a plauge (vent)
  
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• which class is best for killing friendlies?
  
• friendly players should be IP banned
  
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• griefer problem continues
  
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Old Stats 2020[web.archive.org]

Keyword: friendlies
Sorted by relevance - showing 55,436* entries
Sorted by time - showing 183,447* entries

Keyword: cheaters
Sorted by relevance - showing 10,032 entries
Sorted by time - showing 33,957 entries

Keyword: bots
Sorted by relevance - showing 24,256 entries
Sorted by time - showing 75,376 entries

Keywords: cheaters and bots
Total sorted by relevance - showing 34,288* entries
Total sorted by time - showing 109,333* entries
As of January 17th

TF2 General Discussions 2024

Keyword: friendlies
Sorted by relevance - showing 64,628** entries
Sorted by time - showing 224,910** entries

Keyword: cheaters
Sorted by relevance - showing 14,377 entries
Sorted by time - showing 46,955 entries

Keyword: bots
Sorted by relevance - showing 42,083 entries
Sorted by time - showing 154,909 entries

Keywords: cheaters and bots
Total sorted by relevance - showing 56,460** entries
Total sorted by time - showing 201,864** entries
As of April 25th

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The end of this discussion.

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[SINKI]

nobody is reading all that

[Tutu 🤍™🖤 ~^^)]

(I was writing that in a bot thread)
Also, why does the Team Fortress community treat TF2 like it's their country and VALVe is the government?

You're not a "citizen" of TF2, you are being provided with a product to play it, and you're not forced to play it, and it's your choice whether or not risk investing in it, they are free to do whatever they want with TF2, their choice is to slightly maintain it since they are clearly not interested...
I wonder why?

Why the sudden demand when the bots came when Team Fortress players, in my subjective opinion, aren't interested in playing the game (or anything like that for the matter IMO), but just crouchwalking around and getting sad over people playing the game, this rises the question for me, why do friendlies all get that upset over bots?

I don't think I get it...

The solution has always been community servers to make everyone happy but you just refuse it for some reason.

Could you kindly tell me why?
Thankies if you will!

Originally posted by SINKI:

nobody is reading all that

What makes you think that?

[moltzer]

Originally posted by SINKI:

nobody is reading all that

I DID 🙂

[SINKI]

Originally posted by Tutu has #SavedTF2:

(I typed that in a bot thread)
https://steamcommunity.com/my/commenthistory
Also, why does the Team Fortress community treat TF2 like it's their country and VALVe is the government?

You're not a "citizen" of TF2, you are being provided with a product to play it, and you're not forced to play it, and it's your choice whether or not risk investing in it, they are free to do whatever they want with TF2, their choice is to slightly maintain it since they are clearly not interested...
I wonder why?

Why the sudden demand when the bots came when Team Fortress players, in my subjective opinion, aren't interested in playing the game (or anything like that for the matter IMO), but just crouchwalking around and getting sad over people playing the game, this rises the question for me, why do friendlies all get that upset over bots?

I don't think I get it...

The solution has always been community servers to make everyone happy but you just refuse it for some reason.

Could you kindly tell me why?
Thankies if you will!

Originally posted by SINKI:

nobody is reading all that

What makes you think that?

too many words

[Marteun]

I see this before

[Tutu 🤍™🖤 ~^^)]

Originally posted by moltzer:

Originally posted by SINKI:

nobody is reading all that

I DID 🙂

..But have you checked every discussion from this thread of mine?
Do you "Love is Love!" what I do?

Learning lessons when I can't breathe
It's harder, it's harder, it's harder to sleep
When it's late at night and I wish I could tell
And I wish I could burn but I'm already in hell

[Starscream]

bro researching friendly content like its the Kennedy assassination.

[She Kinda A Baddie Tho]

do you do anything else

[RedReimu]

Originally posted by moltzer:

Originally posted by SINKI:

nobody is reading all that

I DID 🙂

Wow, you could’ve read something better.

[Tutu 🤍™🖤 ~^^)]

Originally posted by Freelancer Marcy:

do you do anything else

Everything I did here I do the same in real life if I'm interested.

[Tutu 🤍™🖤 ~^^)]

Originally posted by RedReimu:

Originally posted by moltzer:

I DID 🙂

Wow, you could’ve read something better.

For example?

Friendlies are #1 issue with Team Fortress.
Unironically worse than cheaters and bots, and that's a proven by me, objective statement.

Anyway, RedReimu, you can start listening to people who are unbiased, what I did was based on my interest, not hatred.
Who care about all people, not only about those they have bias for.

Don't listen to people who argue for the sake of winning the argument, not to make the world better.
Hear out the opposition, do not generalize. Compared to me, Rando is an angel.
Don't let anyone tell you what or not to do, what to or not think.
Don't let people swap your opinions with their own ones.
Don't let someone manipulate you.
Always think for yourself.
Doubt.

Depression makes you unable to think clearly.
I can and will help you if you want.
I'm an expert.

Whether I am bad persyn or not has no relevance, someone is an actual evil, but I don't know who.

[Tutu 🤍™🖤 ~^^)]

Originally posted by Baking Chocolate:

sis researching friendly content like its the Kennedy assassination.

Can't help but perfect things I'm interested in and point out severe issues in the Team Fortress community.

Originally posted by Marteun:

I see this before

What do you mean?

[Rahk]

Originally posted by SINKI:

nobody is reading all that

i did.

[among us balls]

Stop forcing me to take a side!

[Tutu 🤍™🖤 ~^^)]

Originally posted by Rahk:

Originally posted by SINKI:

nobody is reading all that

i did.

+rep if you did

With the efforts of people who care about this game combined, we will make TF2 a great experience again!