*actual* hacking snipers

[my butt is erect]

This is not about bots.

Are real cheaters becoming common?? How can you feel confident it's a fair player or not?

You might call me a very skilled casual. I have 1700 hours or something of casual or community server pubstomping. I'm pretty good at the game and never played competitively but do take each match seriously and can play every class adequately.

More and more I'm running into snipers doing things that are believable once, but seemingly impossible as the situation repeats itself. Like going around a corner, seeing a sniper half an inch ahead and they quick scope headshot you. Obviously after 17 years or whatever this is believable that it would happen sometimes.

But it feels so absurd lately the amount of basically-hacking snipers. I'm starting to thinking tons of them are cheating and just going unnoticed.

Whatever the case, man, snipers definitely piss me off in 2024. I don't believe the class was designed around people getting 30 years of mouse skills built up. It's rough out there.

[Mina]

There not unnoticed but no one wants to remove them, they’re usually grouped or in parties and unable to due to majority vote, or subjective. It’s recurring.

Some cheats are down after the 64 update. I’m not sure if it’ll be noticeable

[Starscream]

Most real cheaters I've seen play power classes like Demo and Solider. Solider is easy to tell usually because they automatically shoot you when turning a corner and also have their rockets always aim directly at your feet to knock you up into hit stun, Demo's are trickier cause they usually sticky spam with auto detonate but also aimbot with the grenade launcher when needed. Both also have a little sight give away were their projectile doesn't come out of the gun they are holding but right next to their face or arm.

And really I am only dumping all this info because for some reason 98 percent of the player base hasn't figured this out yet and refuse to kick people.

[robertduncan #savetf2]

There are no cheaters. its proably sniper maine that gets headshot since it does more damamge.

[Insomnia]

Originally posted by pour water:

yes cheaters are definitely common and I can tell you that because I'm one of them

i'm usually in a stack with friends who also cheat so we don't get kicked, but even when I solo queue casual mode Rijin (one of the more advanced cheats) will usually detect at least 1 cheater every other lobby. that's during busy hours of course, late at night and morning there's often 3 marked cheaters per lobby and they start to outnumber the bots. it was funny at first but years later now it's just depressing how stupid people are and will kick the first person we falsely accuse.

i'm a piece of ♥♥♥♥ too obviously but just trying to being honest since others posters here who I have run into won't be, casual mode is secretly a HVH mode right now. go to community servers instead, yes people cheat there too but most of us don't want to ♥♥♥♥ around with configs just to avoid being banned by STAC and frankly there's too many tryhards there anyway for us to have fun

also 64 bit is minor inconvenience - just need to run the game with the 32 bit .exe which is still supported

You're not any better because you're honest. You're the exact same as any other cheater. You have no self respect, or any respect in general.

[Overwatch Better.]

Originally posted by pour water:

yes cheaters are definitely common and I can tell you that because I'm one of them

i'm usually in a stack with friends who also cheat so we don't get kicked, but even when I solo queue casual mode Rijin (one of the more advanced cheats) will usually detect at least 1 cheater every other lobby. that's during busy hours of course, late at night and morning there's often 3 marked cheaters per lobby and they start to outnumber the bots. it was funny at first but years later now it's just depressing how stupid people are and will kick the first person we falsely accuse.

i'm a piece of ♥♥♥♥ too obviously but just trying to being honest since others posters here who I have run into won't be, casual mode is secretly a HVH mode right now. go to community servers instead, yes people cheat there too but most of us don't want to ♥♥♥♥ around with configs just to avoid being banned by STAC and frankly there's too many tryhards there anyway for us to have fun

also 64 bit is minor inconvenience - just need to run the game with the 32 bit .exe which is still supported

All cheaters are little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with no dignity.

[Minajatwa]

Most cheaters I encounter are scouts and spies, almost never snipers. Almost only snipers get accused since it's such a strong class and very hard to counter.

[lavalobster93]

Originally posted by pour water:

yes cheaters are definitely common and I can tell you that because I'm one of them

i'm usually in a stack with friends who also cheat so we don't get kicked, but even when I solo queue casual mode Rijin (one of the more advanced cheats) will usually detect at least 1 cheater every other lobby. that's during busy hours of course, late at night and morning there's often 3 marked cheaters per lobby and they start to outnumber the bots. it was funny at first but years later now it's just depressing how stupid people are and will kick the first person we falsely accuse.

i'm a piece of ♥♥♥♥ too obviously but just trying to being honest since others posters here who I have run into won't be, casual mode is secretly a HVH mode right now. go to community servers instead, yes people cheat there too but most of us don't want to ♥♥♥♥ around with configs just to avoid being banned by STAC and frankly there's too many tryhards there anyway for us to have fun

also 64 bit is minor inconvenience - just need to run the game with the 32 bit .exe which is still supported

thank you for your service

[$hotcaller]

I'm definitely coming across more and more cheaters. Mostly Spies and Sniper but there are Scouts and DH Soldiers every now and then too.

They don't even try to hide most of the time because they play in a group so they won't get kicked. And even when they are not, if their team is a bunch of newer players they tend to just defend them.

The good games are harder to come by and it's ruing my desire to play this game anymore. Just not worth the toxicity.

[Yzal]

There are no humans in Team Fortress 2

[Shiro]

Some are closet cheaters, but if they're hiding it real well then they aren't much different from legit player. Cheaters cheat to get enjoyment of pwning normal players without having skills to do so, and closet cheating doesn't give them satisfaction they want.

As such, when you suspect someone, simply play like they're normal good players but target them specifically. Dominate and huliminate them, and their fragile ego will make them up the ante and become less and less sneaky about them cheating, up to going rage and being exposed. Don't forget to be on friendly terms with the rest of their team, so cheater is actually kicked and not helped by his team.

If you do so but sus guy doesn't increase cheating level, then it's probably a legit player. Feel free to be happy.