Team Fortress 2
ecig Apr 24, 2024 @ 10:13am
Bots? POST HERE! Valve's Github - Developers Engaging
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/4475#issuecomment-2070070982

^ Post here - Valve developers actively monitoring thread
Last edited by ecig; Apr 24, 2024 @ 10:24am
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Mina Apr 24, 2024 @ 10:37am 
Sure they’re aware of it, it would be hard to remove and fix
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)󠀰 󠀰 (Banned) Apr 24, 2024 @ 10:48am 
Originally posted by Doclic:
Originally posted by compromisable:
Please learn about how game development works before sending childish comments in an issue tracker.
If you think it's so easy to do, do it yourself then.
Originally posted by kisak-valve:
Originally posted by compromisable:
you were warned and have chosen to digress into name calling again. This has earned you a one day timeout.
Originally posted by ethanholt1:
Originally posted by compromisable:
You've been told multiple times that your behavior is inappropriate and that your hostility isn't welcome here. While I don't work at Valve (yet, my dms are open Gaben) and cannot ban you from these discussions, I would strongly recommend that you tone down the harsh remarks before someone who can ban you gets sick of it.
You are not a "martyr," you are being intentionally difficult to talk to and outwardly hostile. I for one have gotten sick of your behavior and decided to contact Valve directly at their email posted by Kisak for VAC related issues.
Originally posted by kisak-valve:
Originally posted by compromisable:
it's fairly clear that you're far more interested in wasting people's time bickering than anything else and spamming the same screenshot repeatedly. Your timeout has been extended to 1 month. If I need to step in again it will be permanent.
Perhaps Valve shouldn't have give us the link
Please do not spam them with an issue they are aware of. At most, it will only slow down development from having to deal with duplicate reports.

Perhaps Valve shouldn't have give us the link
The issue report page isn't the problem. It's only a few individuals misunderstanding the purpose of this place. Calling out bots is valid. Pestering them about it is not.
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Thorhardt Apr 24, 2024 @ 10:50am 
Valve is a small indie company, please understand
ecig Apr 24, 2024 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp:
Please do not spam them with an issue they are aware of. At most, it will only slow down development from having to deal with duplicate reports.

Perhaps Valve shouldn't have give us the link
The issue report page isn't the problem. It's only a few individuals misunderstanding the purpose of this place. Calling out bots is valid. Pestering them about it is not.
"Aware" and "acting" are two vastly different things. Years of "awareness" have yielded nothing but empty promises and a worsening bot crisis. Silence isn't a solution, it's surrender.
Originally posted by ecig:
Originally posted by Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp:
Please do not spam them with an issue they are aware of. At most, it will only slow down development from having to deal with duplicate reports.


The issue report page isn't the problem. It's only a few individuals misunderstanding the purpose of this place. Calling out bots is valid. Pestering them about it is not.
"Aware" and "acting" are two vastly different things. Years of "awareness" have yielded nothing but empty promises and a worsening bot crisis. Silence isn't a solution, it's surrender.
But spamming this ♥♥♥♥ doesnt make them do it faster, it only worsens the issue.

Let them sort out the issues, they'll get to it in due time. Anti-Cheat making is no easy feat, and attempting to rush them only encourages less time that can be spent bettering things.
Originally posted by ecig:
Originally posted by Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp:
Please do not spam them with an issue they are aware of. At most, it will only slow down development from having to deal with duplicate reports.


The issue report page isn't the problem. It's only a few individuals misunderstanding the purpose of this place. Calling out bots is valid. Pestering them about it is not.
"Aware" and "acting" are two vastly different things. Years of "awareness" have yielded nothing but empty promises and a worsening bot crisis. Silence isn't a solution, it's surrender.
But what are they supposed to do? I think you're underestimating how big the issue is. Working out a technical solution that works long-term and isn't just an inconvenience is difficult and takes time. Valve's focus is on being non-intrusive first and foremost.

The best I could think of is CS2's Overwatch system and VACnet in TF2, or manual moderation, but nobody wants to play cheater Whack-A-Mole.
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Michael De Santa Apr 24, 2024 @ 11:19am 
I hope valve never solves the bot problem because of people like you
ecig Apr 24, 2024 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Tutu has #SavedTF2:
Originally posted by ecig:
"Aware" and "acting" are two vastly different things. Years of "awareness" have yielded nothing but empty promises and a worsening bot crisis. Silence isn't a solution, it's surrender.
you know what has been worsening the bot crisis?

Things like spamming GitHub and V

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It was fine do it in the beginning but now it's only detrimental.

This isn't the case of "victim blaming"; VALVe can do whatever they want, you all actively refuse to join community servers/MvM or move on to other games, you are not obligated to play the game and neither VALVe is obligated to maintain TF2, and only VALVe owns your items.

Ah, yes, the classic tactic of silencing dissent and blaming the victims. Let's ignore the root cause – Valve's blatant neglect – and instead point fingers at players for expressing their frustration. Newsflash: community activism is not the problem, it's a symptom of the problem. And suggesting we simply abandon a game we've invested time and money in is a pathetic excuse for a solution.
ecig Apr 24, 2024 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by Michael De Santa:
I hope valve never solves the bot problem because of people like you
I hope you find happiness in your misery and bitterness.
azzy Apr 24, 2024 @ 11:48pm 
And then PERISH
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