Team Fortress 2
Sniper was a mistake
A good sniper just breaks the game.

At a point, extremely good snipers make the game not even feel playable as you'll isntantly die 90% of the time walking into any important area. It made sense back in the day, but after 20 years there are more insanely skilled mouse users and it throws the class out of whack.

I got to the point that sometimes I just leave a server if there are too many basically-hacking skill level snipers. FYI I've been playing this game 15 years or something. Nothing annoys me more than a good sniper and in certain modes and maps, the fun of a match is easily ruined by 1 or 2 snipers headshotting someone every 3 seconds.
Last edited by my butt is erect; Apr 9, 2024 @ 2:30pm
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Ernesto Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
Sniper makes people ragequit when he constantly headshot the enemy targets.
Most of his weapons are versatile or even broken like hunstman and bushwacka and jarate.
also smg weapon make people seethe.
Shark Guy Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:06pm 
I honestly think people hate Sniper more now because of the nonstop barrage of bots for 6 years.
/I\ Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Poongoolie:
A good sniper just breaks the game.

Its the issue of too much skill celling being put on 1 weapon that is completly mouse- based.

A 100% accurate sniper could outmatch all other 100% accurate mercenaries, regardless of it being a scout or soldier.

Removal isnt necessary, but rework

sniper needs to be less lethal, but more sustainable

and that can be done simply by:


-changing sniper rifle to do mini crits until fully charged

- adding visible laser beam when sniper is zooming in

- increasing smg dmg and allowing it to mini crit on headshot

That will keep the core playstyle the same, but decrease the skill celling, thus making it more in line with others and most importantly less frustrating to deal with good snipers and hackers
Last edited by /I\; Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:14pm
Zaokllr Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
Learn to WASD, you are not owed beating people who are better at the game than you :steamshrug:
my butt is erect Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by Zaokllr:
Learn to WASD, you are not owed beating people who are better at the game than you :steamshrug:

While not a super master of the game, I'm pretty dang good at this point, and you completely ignored every point actually made. And also are acting like being good at dancing around will fix the problem which is just weird.
Last edited by my butt is erect; Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:43pm
Michael De Santa Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:43pm 
Originally posted by Poongoolie:
It made sense back in the day, but after 20 years there are more insanely skilled mouse users and it throws the class out of whack.
That can be said for every class that requires a mouse to be used
dag Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:44pm 
Maybe play better maps?
my butt is erect Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by Michael De Santa:
Originally posted by Poongoolie:
It made sense back in the day, but after 20 years there are more insanely skilled mouse users and it throws the class out of whack.
That can be said for every class that requires a mouse to be used

Uh, no... other classes don't have instant travel hitscan weapons that kill you in one hit. Yeah scout for instance will slap your ass very fast at close range but this is not at all like the sniper problem.
Last edited by my butt is erect; Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:46pm
pix Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:59pm 
you have been playing for 15 years and you still dont know how to counter sniper??
supersand Apr 9, 2024 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Shark Guy:
I honestly think people hate Sniper more now because of the nonstop barrage of bots for 6 years.
all they do is show how strong the class and how it needs to be limited imo
salguod Apr 9, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
anyone extremely good at their class can make you think they're a mistake
dag Apr 9, 2024 @ 5:53pm 
This you?

Originally posted by Poongoolie:
Been playing over 15 years and still don't know what to do when a market gardener is jumping at me... it's like a guaranteed kill if you aren't specific classes.
BladeGray Apr 9, 2024 @ 6:17pm 
just dont let him see yo head :steamfacepalm:
Leeloo Apr 9, 2024 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by Zaokllr:
Learn to WASD, you are not owed beating people who are better at the game than you :steamshrug:
"learn wasd" mfs when lag compensation decides the sniper headshot you anyways
my butt is erect Apr 9, 2024 @ 7:21pm 
Originally posted by zero:
This you?

Originally posted by Poongoolie:
Been playing over 15 years and still don't know what to do when a market gardener is jumping at me... it's like a guaranteed kill if you aren't specific classes.

Have you considered actually discussing the topic
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