make the V.A.C open source? or the parts of tf2's source code that's exclusively valves?

[Qwertyiop #Fixtf2]

yknow valve if you really don't wanna work on the game why not just let the playerbase do the work for you? if you can't work on tf2 because the source code is so ass then why not try too make it open source too see if it's fixable? I know there are some parts that can't be open source because of licenses or whatnot. BUT WHY NOT MAKE THE PARTS OF THE CODE THAT ARE EXCLUSIVELY YOURS OPEN?????? FOR FREEE? FIX THE GAME???? SO YOUUUUUUUU........ WORK! ON! IT!

[Falleax]

Make the security code open source so it's easier for people to figure out how to bypass it.
Think before you make threads.

[Guilion]

It already is?
The source code for it post MYM (Along with the source code for the game) was leaked about 5 years ago.
Just because Valve doesn't allow anyone except cheaters and bot hosters to use their source code without repercussions doesn't mean that it's not open spurce.

[Life-Ruining Loli Addiction]

Nguyên văn bởi Guilion:

Just because Valve doesn't allow anyone except cheaters and bot hosters to use their source code without repercussions doesn't mean that it's not open spurce.

That's actually exactly what that means.

[Guilion]

Nguyên văn bởi BOT Anna:

Nguyên văn bởi Guilion:

Just because Valve doesn't allow anyone except cheaters and bot hosters to use their source code without repercussions doesn't mean that it's not open spurce.

That's actually exactly what that means.

Actually it's not. The term you're refering to is free software, which allows users to use the code as they see fir within the limits of the license tied to it. Open source only means the code is available. 🤓

[Life-Ruining Loli Addiction]

Nguyên văn bởi Guilion:

Nguyên văn bởi BOT Anna:

That's actually exactly what that means.

Actually it's not. The term you're refering to is free software, which allows users to use the code as they see fir within the limits of the license tied to it. Open source only means the code is available. 🤓

No it doesn't, "free software" and "open source software" have the exact same definition.
You're thinking of "source available", which probably also doesn't even apply since the code was leaked by someone with no rights to it.

[xXx$mͫoͤkͭeͪЯ69xXx #FuckTF2]

Nguyên văn bởi Falleax:

Make the security code open source so it's easier for people to figure out how to bypass it.
Think before you make threads.

[Guilion]

Nguyên văn bởi BOT Anna:

Nguyên văn bởi Guilion:

Actually it's not. The term you're refering to is free software, which allows users to use the code as they see fir within the limits of the license tied to it. Open source only means the code is available. 🤓

No it doesn't, "free software" and "open source software" have the exact same definition.

It's not the same, you should read the GNU project definition of both terms as well as the license agreements set in GPL 2.0 amd GPL 3.0 which provide a definition on both terms. 🤓

[Zaokllr]

You guys thought it was the end of the world when the asset repo happened. Imagine how you'd feel when the bot hosters get this info

[LQIM]

Nguyên văn bởi Falleax:

Make the security code open source so it's easier for people to figure out how to bypass it.
Think before you make threads.

Security by Obscurity means talented reverse engineers find bugs and get to exploit them for much longer than if anyone who could read C++ code found the bug and just reported it. Think before you make your comments

[LQIM]

Valve couldn't make TF2 open source without giving up ip rights to TF2. They could open source the Source Engine, or at least the parts they made, but it's likely that the other bits and pieces that they outsourced are under licenses that would make creating a fork of the Source Engine nigh impossible. They also don't have any incentive to do so

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Nguyên văn bởi tot he chinese!:

Valve couldn't make TF2 open source without giving up ip rights to TF2. They could open source the Source Engine, or at least the parts they made, but it's likely that the other bits and pieces that they outsourced are under licenses that would make creating a fork of the Source Engine nigh impossible

They still can release whatever they can under free software license and let community reimplement missing/non-free parts
Actually why not port tf2 to godot ?

[LQIM]

Nguyên văn bởi Spookydope:

reimplement missing/non-free parts

Yeah but not the IP itself. We know valve won't let the community make a straight tf2 port because they shut down TF2:S2. No point in doing it

[[xG] Avia Indica #FixTF2]

Oh? You mean do practically the exact same thing that directly allowed the bot problem to get so bad in the first place, but Valve-approved this time? Hard pass.

[Life-Ruining Loli Addiction]

Nguyên văn bởi xG Seymour Dixon:

Oh? You mean do practically the exact same thing that directly allowed the bot problem to get so bad in the first place, but Valve-approved this time? Hard pass.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

[[xG] Avia Indica #FixTF2]

Nguyên văn bởi 76561199563832213:

Nguyên văn bởi xG Seymour Dixon:

Oh? You mean do practically the exact same thing that directly allowed the bot problem to get so bad in the first place, but Valve-approved this time? Hard pass.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

The first largest bot floods were objectively caused by the leaking of the source code for tf2, specifically how the official in-game bots utilize nodes.