Team Fortress 2
jungus May 17, 2024 @ 6:39am
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TF2 is a Hero Shooter
I think the only reason people say "Class-based shooter" is because it makes the game sound more unique and special. It's the same logic for TF2's "taunts", where like maybe only a handful are actually a taunt and the rest are just Fortnite-esque emotes.
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ktulu84 May 17, 2024 @ 7:17am 
I mean it is a class based shooter because there are 3 classes in the game and the gameplay revolves around that 3 main elements
steve.squelcher May 17, 2024 @ 7:18am 
Originally posted by jungus:
except that none of the mercs are heroes, they're all war criminals
Originally posted by Kicks:
No one's calling this game hero-based shooter, because that implies they're heroes when they're far from performing heroic acts.

They're Mercenaries who have a job to kill and that's it.
If you class them as heroes doing a heroic job then I guess serial killers are just serial heroes just because they did one good thing while.
Completely moot point. The "hero" in hero shooter doesn't refer to the characters being heroic
My brick wall provides more valid argument points than this.
I'm just gonna assume you're baiting at this point.

If you're not baiting, then I pray you try new games in your life to better educate yourself on the difference between class-based and hero-based shooters.

Team Fortress 2 has classes, with each character filling in ONE class role per character:
> Heavy is the Tank.
> Medic is the Healer.
> Scout is the Flanker.
Notice how they're not named like people.
They're named after their CLASS ROLE:
> Flankers can provide intel about the backlines.
> Spy can go invisible, which assists Flankers while also giving him the option to punish those not checking their flank.
> Medic self-explains itself.
> Heavy self-explains he's able to Tank while also being slow.

Meanwhile, hero-based shooters don't follow this.
They name their characters something that's nowhere close to their actual class role while also having MULTIPLE characters fill out one role, like having 11 characters that despite their weapon, they fulfil the same role; Tanking damage.
Best example is "D.va" solely because the name alone wouldn't tell you she's a Tank/DPS hybrid.

Class-based shooter like Battlefield (not counting 2042 for obvious reasons), name the classes based on roles:
> Assault [Aggression and damage]
> Engineer [They assist with vehicle health]
> Support [They provide health/ammo]
> Recon [They can setup flanks with a respawn beacons]
Sounds familiar? I wonder why.

Would love to know what your next stupid response is gonna be.
Last edited by steve.squelcher; May 17, 2024 @ 7:42am
Vror May 17, 2024 @ 7:21am 
I know is a funny post but it really Made e think of why people get heated when this game is called a hero shooter

I think my conclussion is that because TF2 characters aren't "somebody" (as in their name is literally their job), meanwhile in games like overwatch you have "Winston" (literal name), Mercy (made up name to present a hero persona), and the list goes on
I think class based shooter makes more sense depending on context, because if you think about it, other games are usually more personalized. With others like OW or paladins which are more "hero" based, you're not playing a class, you're playing a person. Like Drogoz, Tracer, Junkrat, Fernando, etc, but with TF2, you only know the names of the characters in external media, their referred to by function. Scout, Soldier, Demoman, Pyro, Heavy, Engineer, etc. This also lends itself to customization with various weapons in TF2 in which you essentially "create a class" more akin to choosing certain guns in CoD or other shooters like Battlefield.

Honestly though the line is pretty blurry because, pretty much everyone who knows TF2 knows it for 2 things. Either the personalities of the characters or the gameplay itself, and recently due to the lack of people in the fanbase who still or just don't want to play the game, I'd say its the first. It's arguably become more personalized as time's gone on, so in some ways, I'd say yeah, the "hero shooter" title does make some level of sense.

In reality though, who the hell cares? It's a subtitle, you're still going to refer to the game itself as it's full name or nickname. Team Fortress 2 is TF2, Overwatch 2 is OW2, Paladins is.. uh.. paladins?? (idk it's nickname lol)
Zumo Nacho INC (Banned) May 17, 2024 @ 7:46am 
ok, and?
SharkChew May 17, 2024 @ 7:52am 
You're late by like, uh, almost a decade. Nobody cares about hero shooters anymore.
RedReimu May 17, 2024 @ 7:53am 
You can do better than this jungus :steamfacepalm:
Michael De Santa May 17, 2024 @ 12:38pm 
except that none of the mercs are heroes, they're all war criminals
Some people consider war criminals as heroes
Last edited by Michael De Santa; May 17, 2024 @ 12:38pm
Originally posted by Michael De Santa:
except that none of the mercs are heroes, they're all war criminals
Some people consider war criminals as heroes
It's like how serial murderers are attractive to some people for some reason.
charbway May 17, 2024 @ 1:24pm 
im the hero
Yzal May 17, 2024 @ 1:34pm 
Nah bro. You're shooting mercenaries, not heroes.
Spartykins May 17, 2024 @ 6:22pm 
overwatch is a class based shooter
Mina May 17, 2024 @ 6:28pm 
I remember when someone was votekicked after asking “which hero should I choose” humorously and to disapproval
Emurinus May 17, 2024 @ 6:32pm 
Nah, it can't be a hero shooter cause Medic's a straight villain.
Mcfighter2 May 17, 2024 @ 6:47pm 
Maybe it's because the mercenaries aren't heroes. They're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiots fighting over gravel.
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