Why TF2 lose players.

[a]

Yeah, TF2 is a fun game. It would've had more players than just around 50k-70k players like right now. Last December, TF2 had an AVG of 115k players. By the way, TF2 servers have bots, and sometimes they work together to votekick you, even when you just joined the server. There are also cheaters, most of them are in community servers. TF2 is also very P2W, you get a little features. As a f2p player, I just hate the way that you can't VC or text chat, and even characters' voicelines are even paid. The causual servers are only 2-3 players talking, which make the server silent. TF2 is getting a 64-bit update, which I think may rescue TF2 a bit(for low specs players). Valve, please make the game be more F2P, it can just get way more players now.

#SaveTF2

[Michael De Santa]

Just for you, I think F2Ps shouldn’t be allowed to play the game and deserve more rights revoked

[( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)󠀰 󠀰]

90% of the players count are trading bots

[Mina]

The player count is around 11-12k players, around the season, there are increases in players and bots.

[76561199504595123]

The actual player count is around 10k, the rest are bots and trade bots.

[a]

Originally posted by BOW TO MARIO:

The actual player count is around 10k, the rest are bots and trade bots.

at least kongreate didn't buy it

[Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp]

Last time I checked, only Steam's player count got affected. Perhaps Valve has cracked down on bots and scammers faking themselves playing TF2.
Teamwork.tf still probably says that 10-15k players are playing right now, which is where it's been at for a long time.

[Masked Monster]

abandoned dead game 2, it deserves to lose players

#killTF2forgood

[ilt]

#killTF2forgood

[76561199577610788]

I didnt knew VC,CHat and voicelines are paid, i just know the items are.I recently got sun on a stick for scout and ice stabber (i dont remember how it was called) and i was very surprised! :D

[cirno]

Welp, in my opinion, unless tf2 Is not generating money to Valve, they're not gonna care a single piece of ❤️❤️❤️❤️ about the game

[mathis90200]

Originally posted by Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp:

Last time I checked, only Steam's player count got affected. Perhaps Valve has cracked down on bots and scammers faking themselves playing TF2.
Teamwork.tf still probably says that 10-15k players are playing right now, which is where it's been at for a long time.

Can we trust Teamwork.tf tho?
If anything, they could be lying about the player count. Or there could even be a miscalculation.

[$hotcaller]

Originally posted by mathis90200:

Originally posted by Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp:

Last time I checked, only Steam's player count got affected. Perhaps Valve has cracked down on bots and scammers faking themselves playing TF2.
Teamwork.tf still probably says that 10-15k players are playing right now, which is where it's been at for a long time.

Can we trust Teamwork.tf tho?
If anything, they could be lying about the player count. Or there could even be a miscalculation.

Try joining a game right now and see how many actual players you come across. If the number was even remotely close to what Steam says, you shouldn't have any trouble.

[mathis90200]

Originally posted by südenim:

Originally posted by mathis90200:

Can we trust Teamwork.tf tho?
If anything, they could be lying about the player count. Or there could even be a miscalculation.

Try joining a game right now and see how many actual players you come across. If the number was even remotely close to what Steam says, you shouldn't have any trouble.

we can't rely on luck

[Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp]

Originally posted by mathis90200:

Originally posted by Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp:

Last time I checked, only Steam's player count got affected. Perhaps Valve has cracked down on bots and scammers faking themselves playing TF2.
Teamwork.tf still probably says that 10-15k players are playing right now, which is where it's been at for a long time.

Can we trust Teamwork.tf tho?
If anything, they could be lying about the player count. Or there could even be a miscalculation.

Teamwork.tf counts all players on a server. You could query all TF2 servers right now, and you should be able to reach roughly that number after adding up the players on each server. I'd say we can trust those numbers.

The problem is with trusting player count as a definitive measure of a game's health, but that's something I don't want to explain right now. TL;DR: Player count in general is misleading.

[$hotcaller]

Originally posted by mathis90200:

Originally posted by südenim:

Try joining a game right now and see how many actual players you come across. If the number was even remotely close to what Steam says, you shouldn't have any trouble.

we can't rely on luck

That makes no sense at all. If real players were in the 60k range and not the 10k (6k in casual) that teamwork.tf stats, you wouldn't be needing luck.

You trying to make my argument for me?