DPM chart?

[The Last One]

Is there a Damage Per Minute chart somewhere for the various weapons? I'm trying to find out the DPM of the various soldier weapons.

[The Last One]

Originally posted by Chairdolf Sitler:

1. People usually talk about DPS and not DPM, because stuff like Heavy's Miniguns would have DPM close to 180000. You can find the DPS (or attack interval and damage) on TF2 Wiki

I don't understand the chart I'm reading. I'm trying to figure out the DPS between the regular rocket launcher, the liberty launcher, and the direct hit.

I'm trying to figure out the most practical weapon for MvM. The Direct hit can't be it because it doesn't work well with the buff banner.

But I don't know how much my DPS with the liberty launcher it's got higher fire rate but lower damage and I don't know how that balances out.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

Originally posted by Chairdolf Sitler:

1. People usually talk about DPS and not DPM, because stuff like Heavy's Miniguns would have DPM close to 180000. You can find the DPS (or attack interval and damage) on TF2 Wiki

I don't understand the chart I'm reading. I'm trying to figure out the DPS between the regular rocket launcher, the liberty launcher, and the direct hit.

I'm trying to figure out the most practical weapon for MvM. The Direct hit can't be it because it doesn't work well with the buff banner.

But I don't know how much my DPS with the liberty launcher it's got higher fire rate but lower damage and I don't know how that balances out.

go stock. its the best launcher for mvm.

[The Last One]

Originally posted by ♥ PandaCat ♥:

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

I don't understand the chart I'm reading. I'm trying to figure out the DPS between the regular rocket launcher, the liberty launcher, and the direct hit.

I'm trying to figure out the most practical weapon for MvM. The Direct hit can't be it because it doesn't work well with the buff banner.

But I don't know how much my DPS with the liberty launcher it's got higher fire rate but lower damage and I don't know how that balances out.

go stock. its the best launcher for mvm.

Even better than beggars?

[The Last One]

What about just general purpose? How does the Liberty Launchers dps stack up vs the rocket launcher?

Because I've been viewing it as a half way between the rocket launcher and direct hit and I don't know if thats the truth.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

Originally posted by ♥ PandaCat ♥:

go stock. its the best launcher for mvm.

Even better than beggars?

yes imo, ive played with both but I prefer stock over beggars. beggars can be very good late game though.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

What about just general purpose? How does the Liberty Launchers dps stack up vs the rocket launcher?

Because I've been viewing it as a half way between the rocket launcher and direct hit and I don't know if thats the truth.

LL is not great in mvm.

[The Last One]

Originally posted by ♥ PandaCat ♥:

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

What about just general purpose? How does the Liberty Launchers dps stack up vs the rocket launcher?

Because I've been viewing it as a half way between the rocket launcher and direct hit and I don't know if thats the truth.

LL is not great in mvm.

When I say general purpose I mean outside of MvM.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

Originally posted by ♥ PandaCat ♥:

go stock. its the best launcher for mvm.

Even better than beggars?

I'd argue it is now that it got hit with 20% radius loss. Robots tend to like to spread out as they run.

[The Last One]

How does the Liberty Launcher stack up in regular non-MvM games? Because I've been using it as a half way between the Rocket Launcher and Direct Hit. Is that what the weapon actually is?

I assumed that the fire rate more than balanced out the damage loss.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

Originally posted by ♥ PandaCat ♥:

LL is not great in mvm.

When I say general purpose I mean outside of MvM.

not sure then I don't play soldier. I do know LL is a pain to reflect.

[The Last One]

Originally posted by Chairdolf Sitler:

Liberty Launcher - 68 damage / 0.8s, 85 DPS
Rocket Launcher - 90 damage / 0.8s, 112,5 DPS
Direct Hit - 112 damage / 0.8s, 140 DPS
There, I did the math. Now give me a cookie.

I completly don't know how to do math anymore. It hasn't been relevent in 17yrs. I use number association for everything I need.

[The Last One]

Originally posted by Chairdolf Sitler:

Originally posted by Valentine +3.89:

I completly don't know how to do math anymore. It hasn't been relevent in 17yrs. I use number association for everything I need.

What is number association?

It's how stupid people do math. Think about what's a quarter of 20. How do you figure it out.

Normal People: 20/4=5

Number Association: Half of 20 is 10 half of 10 is 5.

I don't do the math. I associate it with other numbers to try and find the answer. Not everyone's good at math. I have other things I'm good at.

[Zappy]

So... I see this is related to Mann Versus Machine in some way, as for which rocket launcher is the best. In my opinion, it's either the Beggar's Bazooka or the Cow Mangler 5000 (despite the lack of crits). Beggar's Bazooka to blow up everything... and Cow Mangler 5000 to not run out of ammo very quickly. Personally, I use the Cow Mangler 5000 in Mann Versus Machine.