Why do TF2 youtubers get a bad rep?

[GameSmashDash]

I could understand casual/ people who don't play TF2 all that often but why do some people despise TF2 youtubers? Isn't the whole idea that the people who played the game more than you/ have more knowledge in experience being entitled to complain about the experience or am I missing something?

[SINKI]

they give bad opinions

[Staffy]

Not all of them, but those that get are most likely have done atleast one thing from this list:
- promoting of gambling sites (knowing that majority of their audience is underaged)
- having annoying personality (this subjective, but still)
- hating on competitive side of the game, without any meaningful reason
- worshipping culture of reddit (trash) memes
- forcing their opinion on their sub-commuinities
- manipulating with price of in-game items intentionally/not (I don't care about traders, but there were enough times when yt guy said "the x is cool" and then casual is filled with this joke/concept/whatever and item's price inflates more than pyro rule 34 after creation of fempyro sfm model)
- #SaveTF2
- alot of them were confirmed of grooming minors and doing alot of other bad deeds
- teaching players bad habits/making wrong suggestions on why class/weapon/strat is good/bad

There are probably more reasons, but these are all I could think of. Sorry for bad grammar.

[Bob]

Originally posted by GameSmashDash:

Isn't the whole idea that the people who played the game more than you/ have more knowledge in experience being entitled to complain about the experience or am I missing something?

Why do you even presume they are more experienced. People ability to give good takes not only stems from playing the game a few thousand hours but also having a common sense, knowledge how the mechanics of the game actually work and being able of critical about themselves and others. And simply many youtubers lack some of these.

Zesty is probably prime example here, with his hatred of competetive, bizzare defence of random bullet spread and often ebrasive behavior. Although lately he's been talking more about hats and skins and actually talking reasonably because he's has actual knowledge on this subject.

Uncle Dane said big cancer ball short circuit is balanced and everyone kinda accepted that while it's obvious how blantantly op it is.

Tyler Mcvicker multiple times ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up things for worse and then had to apologise or "found another leaks about tf2 update coming soon!".

SoundSmith 50/50 rule and other bad takes.

SiN and Delfy promoting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gambling and irritating exploits.

Mechawreck.

LazyPurple creating many opinion which became standard in the community.

The problem is more so the people who watch lack any assertiveness.

[76561198161596995]

they tend to establish themselves, consciously or not, as ambassadors of the community
when they have dime a dozen pubber tier opinions and a platform to give them on they expound and cement those terrible opinions even further, poisoning the well on any discussion even if they mean well
also shout out to the whole thing where if you just say something with enough presentation value it'll be taken as you knowing what you're talking about when in actuality it's just a surface level observation that couldve been made in 2 minutes tops

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

It depends on what content they create that generally leads to a bad rep being created.

[sf ⁧colossal]

because its cringe

[Yzal]

Because they play TF2 and are Youtubers.

[gianni]

Oftentimes they are just random pubbers who give themselves a platform through their channel. It’s given that if someone speaks extensively on a topic, they must be well versed and video essay formats let you say a whole lot of nothing while still reaching that 10-minute mark.

Other pubbers think that if you take the time to make a video, the information contained in it is probably correct and as a result it’s what many players will base their opinions off of regardless of whether it’s right.

[GameSmashDash]

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Originally posted by GameSmashDash:

Isn't the whole idea that the people who played the game more than you/ have more knowledge in experience being entitled to complain about the experience or am I missing something?

Why do you even presume they are more experienced. People ability to give good takes not only stems from playing the game a few thousand hours but also having a common sense, knowledge how the mechanics of the game actually work and being able of critical about themselves and others. And simply many youtubers lack some of these.

Zesty is probably prime example here, with his hatred of competetive, bizzare defence of random bullet spread and often ebrasive behavior. Although lately he's been talking more about hats and skins and actually talking reasonably because he's has actual knowledge on this subject.

Uncle Dane said big cancer ball short circuit is balanced and everyone kinda accepted that while it's obvious how blantantly op it is.

Tyler Mcvicker multiple times ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up things for worse and then had to apologise or "found another leaks about tf2 update coming soon!".

SoundSmith 50/50 rule and other bad takes.

SiN and Delfy promoting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gambling and irritating exploits.

Mechawreck.

LazyPurple creating many opinion which became standard in the community.

The problem is more so the people who watch lack any assertiveness.

Idk; I'm mostly talking about a handful of TF2 yters I watch that have a lot of hours in the game. Idk who Zesty is, I don't know who Tyler Mcvickier is.

[GameSmashDash]

Originally posted by #givepyroalightninggun:

they tend to establish themselves, consciously or not, as ambassadors of the community
when they have dime a dozen pubber tier opinions and a platform to give them on they expound and cement those terrible opinions even further, poisoning the well on any discussion even if they mean well
also shout out to the whole thing where if you just say something with enough presentation value it'll be taken as you knowing what you're talking about when in actuality it's just a surface level observation that couldve been made in 2 minutes tops

That's fair; honestly I never thought of it like that.

[Bob]

Originally posted by GameSmashDash:

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Why do you even presume they are more experienced. People ability to give good takes not only stems from playing the game a few thousand hours but also having a common sense, knowledge how the mechanics of the game actually work and being able of critical about themselves and others. And simply many youtubers lack some of these.

Zesty is probably prime example here, with his hatred of competetive, bizzare defence of random bullet spread and often ebrasive behavior. Although lately he's been talking more about hats and skins and actually talking reasonably because he's has actual knowledge on this subject.

Uncle Dane said big cancer ball short circuit is balanced and everyone kinda accepted that while it's obvious how blantantly op it is.

Tyler Mcvicker multiple times ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up things for worse and then had to apologise or "found another leaks about tf2 update coming soon!".

SoundSmith 50/50 rule and other bad takes.

SiN and Delfy promoting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gambling and irritating exploits.

Mechawreck.

LazyPurple creating many opinion which became standard in the community.

The problem is more so the people who watch lack any assertiveness.

Idk; I'm mostly talking about a handful of TF2 yters I watch that have a lot of hours in the game. Idk who Zesty is, I don't know who Tyler Mcvickier is.

Still, If you treat hours in the game as determinant if someone understand what is he talking about, then: xd.

[GameSmashDash]

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Originally posted by GameSmashDash:

Idk; I'm mostly talking about a handful of TF2 yters I watch that have a lot of hours in the game. Idk who Zesty is, I don't know who Tyler Mcvickier is.

Still, If you treat hours in the game as determinant if someone understand what is he talking about, then: xd.

From my understanding that having more hours in a game = you know what you're talking about. Unless I have been miss informed. This mindset I learned from the fg communities and from TF2 players.

[dag]

Originally posted by GameSmashDash:

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Still, If you treat hours in the game as determinant if someone understand what is he talking about, then: xd.

From my understanding that having more hours in a game = you know what you're talking about. Unless I have been miss informed. This mindset I learned from the fg communities and from TF2 players.

So if i left the game open for 10,000 hours, you would believe whatever I say?

[76561198161596995]

Originally posted by GameSmashDash:

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Still, If you treat hours in the game as determinant if someone understand what is he talking about, then: xd.

From my understanding that having more hours in a game = you know what you're talking about. Unless I have been miss informed. This mindset I learned from the fg communities and from TF2 players.

tf2 is a special case because there are a multitude of ways where you can spend time that isnt on the actual main game, and only a couple genuinely put your skill and knowledge to the test

[ReNegade]

Because the bigger ones are either cringe, dumb or a mix of the two