Team Fortress 2
M4 Sherman Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:29pm
All Class Matchups Ranked by Complexity
Grading Rubric
  1. ๐Ÿ“‹ Unique strategies earn 1 point each
  2. ๐Ÿ”„ Weapon switches earn ยฝ point each
  3. 0๏ธโƒฃ Repeated strategies earn 0 points

Non-unique strategies are NOT counted
Strategies which can be used equally by every class are not included here. These add no complexity to any class in particular. Examples:
โ†ฉ๏ธ๐Ÿงถ Shooting a Heavy while weaving in and out of cover
โ†—๏ธโ›ฐ๏ธ Fighting a Soldier from high-ground
โฌ…๏ธ ๐Ÿช Kiting a Pyro to stay out of range

Non-specific strategies are NOT counted
Strategies which are equally useful against every class are not included here. These can be employed at your own discretion so they need no improvisation. Examples:
โฐ๐Ÿ”ญ Quick-scoping as Sniper
๐Ÿ’จโ˜ ๏ธ Environmental airblast kills as Pyro
๐Ÿ”„2๏ธโƒฃ Switching to your secondary weapon

Non-viable strategies are NOT counted
Strategies which are not practical are not included here. Examples:
๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ”จ Using the Homewrecker to destroy Sentry Guns
โœจ๐Ÿ”ซ Using the Pomson 6000 against Medics and Spies
๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿช‚ Switching to BASE Jumper against Soldiers or Demomen


Scout's Matchups
  • Scout vs. Scout:
    ๐Ÿ•›๐Ÿ‡ Synchronize movement with enemy to make aiming easier
    ๐Ÿ”„โšพ Switch to Sandman
  • Scout vs. Soldier:
    โ†ฉ๏ธ๐Ÿฆ˜ Jump over ledges, double-jump back
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿฅซ Switch to Soda Popper
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿฆ Switch to Winger
  • Scout vs. Pyro:
    ๐Ÿงฏ ๐Ÿฅ› Extinguish with Mad Milk
    ๐Ÿ”„โ˜€๏ธ Switch to Sun-on-a-Stick
    ๐Ÿ”„ ๐Ÿ’ˆ Switch to Candy Cane
  • Scout vs. Demoman:
    โ†ฉ๏ธ๐Ÿฆ˜ Jump over ledges, double-jump back (repeat)
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฃ Destroy sticky traps with pistols
  • Scout vs. Heavy:
    ๐Ÿ’ซ๐Ÿ Jump over enemy's head to be as elusive as possible
    ๐Ÿšซ๐ŸŒ Slow-cancel when fighting Natascha
    ๐Ÿฅ› โค๏ธ Heal with Mad Milk
  • Scout vs. Engineer:
    ๐Ÿงฝ๐Ÿฅค Drink Bonk to sponge damage from Sentry Gun
    โญ•๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ Circle-strafe around Sentry Gun at close range
  • Scout vs. Medic:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Medic
  • Scout vs. Sniper:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Sniper
  • Scout vs. Spy:
    ๐Ÿฅ› ๐Ÿฉธ Mark with bleeding or Mad Milk

    Total Score: 12.5
Soldier's Matchups
  • Soldier vs. Scout:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Scout
  • Soldier vs. Soldier:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Soldier
  • Soldier vs. Pyro:
    ๐ŸŽฏ๐Ÿ“ Offset rockets to make them harder to reflect
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ”ฆ Switch to Shotgun
  • Soldier vs. Demoman:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Demoman
  • Soldier vs. Heavy:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Heavy
  • Soldier vs. Engineer:
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿš€ Switch to Direct Hit
  • Soldier vs. Medic:
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ“ป Switch to Battalion's Backup against Kritz
  • Soldier vs. Sniper:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Sniper
  • Soldier vs. Spy:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Spy

    Total Score: 2.5
Pyro's Matchups
  • Pyro vs. Scout:
    ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿšง Airblast into walls or corners to immobilize enemy
  • Pyro vs. Soldier:
    ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿš€ Reflect rockets
    ๐Ÿงญโœ–๏ธ Engage from intercardinal angles for bonus airblast range
    ๐Ÿ’ฅโ–ถ๏ธ Det-jump midair to recover from being juggled
  • Pyro vs. Pyro:
    โ˜„๏ธ๐ŸฅŠ Flare-punch to land critical hits
    ๐Ÿงฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ Extinguish teammates
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ”ซ Switch to Manmelter
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ”ฆ Switch to Shotgun
  • Pyro vs. Demoman:
    ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ’ฃ Reflect pipes and stickies
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฃ Destroy sticky traps with flares
    ๐Ÿงญโœ–๏ธ Engage from intercardinal angles for bonus airblast range (repeat)
    ๐Ÿ’ฅโ–ถ๏ธ Det-jump midair to recover from being juggled (repeat)
  • Pyro vs. Heavy:
    ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ”บ Airblast upward and attack from below to be harder to track
    ๐Ÿšซ๐ŸŒ Slow-cancel when fighting Natascha
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿช“ Switch to Axtinguisher
  • Pyro vs. Engineer:
    โ†ฉ๏ธ๐Ÿš€ Double-peek to safely reflect Sentry Gun rockets
    โญ•๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ Circle-strafe around Sentry Gun at close range
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ”ฅ Switch to Dragon's Fury
  • Pyro vs. Medic:
    ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ Separate Medic from รœbercharge patient
    ๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ๐Ÿ”จ Mark with fire to break Vaccinator resistance
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿช“ Switch to Third Degree
  • Pyro vs. Sniper:
    ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ๐Ÿ”ฅ Obstruct vision with flame particles
  • Pyro vs. Spy:
    โœ”๏ธ๐Ÿ”ฅ Spy-check flank routes
    ๐Ÿ“ผ๐Ÿ”จ Destroy sappers with Homewrecker

    Total Score: 20
Demoman's Matchups
  • Demoman vs. Scout:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Scout
  • Demoman vs. Soldier:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Soldier
  • Demoman vs. Pyro:
    โซ๐Ÿ’ฃ Charge stickies to make them harder to airblast
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ Switch to shield for fire resistance
  • Demoman vs. Demoman:
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฃ Destroy sticky traps with QBL or SR
  • Demoman vs. Heavy:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Heavy
  • Demoman vs. Engineer:
    โ›ฐ๏ธใ€ฝ๏ธ Indirect fire at Sentry Gun over terrain
  • Demoman vs. Medic:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Medic
  • Demoman vs. Sniper:
    โซ๐Ÿ’ฃ Charge stickies to increase range (repeat)
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ’ฃ Switch to Quickiebomb Launcher
  • Demoman vs. Spy:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Spy

    Total Score: 4
Heavy's Matchups
  • Heavy vs. Scout:
    ๐Ÿ”„๐ŸŒ Switch to Natascha
  • Heavy vs. Soldier:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Soldier
  • Heavy vs. Pyro:
    ๐Ÿฅช๐Ÿ”ฅ Save burning teammates with Sandvich
    ๐Ÿ”„๐ŸŒ Switch to Natascha (repeat)
  • Heavy vs. Demoman:
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ฃ Destroy sticky traps with minigun fire
  • Heavy vs. Heavy:
    ๐Ÿ”ฝ๐ŸงŽโ€โ™‚๏ธ Crouch to reduce hitbox size
  • Heavy vs. Engineer:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Engineer
  • Heavy vs. Medic:
    ๐Ÿงค๐Ÿคฃ Deny รœbercharges with Holiday Punch
  • Heavy vs. Sniper:
    ๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ Use voiceline commands to block head
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿฆพ Switch to Fists of Steel
  • Heavy vs. Spy:
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ”ฅ Switch to Huo-Long Heater

    Total Score: 6.5
Engineer's Matchups
  • Engineer vs. Scout:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Scout
  • Engineer vs. Soldier:
    โšก๐Ÿ”Œ Destroy projectiles with Short Circuit
  • Engineer vs. Pyro:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Pyro
  • Engineer vs. Demoman:
    โšก๐Ÿ”Œ Destroy projectiles with Short Circuit (repeat)
  • Engineer vs. Heavy:
    ๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ๐Ÿšง Partially cover Sentry Gun with terrain
  • Engineer vs. Engineer:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Engineer
  • Engineer vs. Medic:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Medic
  • Engineer vs. Sniper:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Sniper
  • Engineer vs. Spy
    ๐Ÿ“ผ๐Ÿ”จ Destroy sappers
    ๐Ÿ“ผ๐ŸŽฃ Feign sapper removal to bait Spy
    ๐Ÿ—๏ธ๐Ÿงฐ Build in locations inaccessible to Spies
    ๐Ÿ•น๏ธ๐ŸŽญ Use Wrangler to shoot disguised Spies
    ๐Ÿ”ง๐Ÿฉธ Mark with bleeding from Southern Hospitality

    Total Score: 7
Medic's Matchups
  • Medic vs. Scout:
    ๐Ÿช๐Ÿ’‰ Kite and fire syringes
  • Medic vs. Soldier:
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ Surf explosions to escape
  • Medic vs. Pyro:
    โค๏ธ ๐ŸŽป Save yourself from afterburn with Kritz or Amputator taunt
    ๐Ÿช๐Ÿ’‰ Kite and fire syringes (repeat)
  • Medic vs. Demoman:
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ Surf explosions to escape (repeat)
  • Medic vs. Heavy:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Heavy
  • Medic vs. Engineer:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Engineer
  • Medic vs. Medic:
    ๐Ÿ”„โšกSwitch to Kritz if enemy Medic uses Quick Fix
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ Switch to Vaccinator if enemy Medic uses Kritz
  • Medic vs. Sniper:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Sniper
  • Medic vs. Spy:
    ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ๐Ÿ“ก Use Medic Radar bind to detect enemy Spies
    ๐Ÿน๐Ÿ’˜ Heal with crossbow to avoid healing Spies

    Total Score: 6
Sniper's Matchups
  • Sniper vs. Scout:
    ๐Ÿ”„๐ŸŽ‡ Switch to SMG
  • Sniper vs. Soldier:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Soldier
  • Sniper vs. Pyro:
    ๐Ÿงฏ ๐Ÿ‹ Extinguish with Jarate
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ•๏ธ Switch to Cozy Camper
    ๐Ÿ”„๐ŸŠ Switch to Darwin's Danger Shield
  • Sniper vs. Demoman:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Heavy
  • Sniper vs. Heavy:
    ๐Ÿ”ฝ๐Ÿ‘‰ Aim below head to compensate for flinching
  • Sniper vs. Engineer:
    ๐Ÿ‘ท๐Ÿ–๏ธ Aim at extremities if Engineer is hiding behind his gun
  • Sniper vs. Medic:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Medic
  • Sniper vs. Sniper:
    2๏ธโƒฃ๐Ÿ”ญ Second-scope for dodging enemy shots
    ๐Ÿ”ฝ๐ŸŽ Dropshot for dodging enemy shots
  • Sniper vs. Spy:
    ๐Ÿ‹ ๐Ÿฉธ Mark with bleeding or Jarate
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿฆ” Switch to Razorback

    Total Score: 8
Spy's Matchups
  • Spy vs. Scout:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Scout
  • Spy vs. Soldier:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Soldier
  • Spy vs. Pyro:
    โ›ฐ๏ธ๐Ÿ Climb on top of props which are unlikely to be Spy-checked
    ๐Ÿ”„๐ŸงŠ Switch to Spy-cicle
    ๐Ÿ”„โŒš Switch to Dead Ringer
  • Spy vs. Demoman:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Demoman
  • Spy vs. Heavy:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Heavy
  • Spy vs. Engineer:
    โšก๐Ÿ“ผ Sap enemy buildings
    ๐Ÿ‘ทโ˜ ๏ธ Make Sentry Gun fire at its own Engineer
    ๐Ÿง—๐Ÿ”ช Climb on top of buildings and head-stab
    ๐Ÿ”„๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ Switch to YER to safely stab Engineers
  • Spy vs. Medic:
    ๐ŸŽญ๐Ÿ’‚โ€โ™‚๏ธ Disguise as combat class to steal healing
  • Spy vs. Sniper:
    โŒ๐Ÿ“‹ No unique strategy against Sniper
  • Spy vs. Spy:
    ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ๐Ÿ“ข Report disguise and location of enemy Spies

    Total Score: 7.5

Rankings
15 or more points
๐Ÿ›๐Ÿฆ‹Transformative: How classes in a class-based shooter should be designed. These have constantly-shifting gameplay which keeps them fresh even after thousands of hours.

10โ€“14.5 points
๐ŸฆŠ๐ŸบAdaptive: You often need to make considerable changes to your play-style depending on who you're fighting. Gameplay is more dynamic than most classes.

5โ€“9.5 points:
๐Ÿซ๐Ÿช Varied: These classes have some diversity in their gameplay but remain somewhat constrained. You might have to improvise based on who you're fighting.

0โ€“4.5 points:
๐ŸŽ ๐ŸŽ  Monotonous: These classes have repetitive gameplay which loops forever seeing almost no changes. Fighting a different class might require you to make superficial adjustments, if even that. At this point, why are you even playing a class-based shooter?
Last edited by M4 Sherman; Mar 25, 2023 @ 2:34pm
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Tldr
rin Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:35pm 
thats a whole lot of words.
bloodcubed (Banned) Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:36pm 
you type too much
rin Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:38pm 
WAIT THIS IS JUST A "PYRO IS THE BEST CLASS" POST
rin Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:39pm 
YOU LITERALLY JUST MADE UP A POINT SYSTEM, DEEMED SOLDIER THE WORST AND PYRO THE BEST AND THE REST KINDA IN THE MIDDLE
WAIT THIS IS JUST A "PYRO IS THE BEST CLASS" POST
YOU LITERALLY JUST MADE UP A POINT SYSTEM, DEEMED SOLDIER THE WORST AND PYRO THE BEST AND THE REST KINDA IN THE MIDDLE

Lmfaooo
Last edited by The deadly Cutsman; Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:40pm
rin Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:40pm 
Originally posted by The deadly Cutsman:
Tldr
the TLDR for you:
pyro best!!!!!
soldier worst.....
the TLDR for you:
pyro best!!!!!
soldier worst.....

Thanks Rin :steamthumbsup::happy_yeti:
bloodcubed (Banned) Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:42pm 
YOU LITERALLY JUST MADE UP A POINT SYSTEM, DEEMED SOLDIER THE WORST AND PYRO THE BEST AND THE REST KINDA IN THE MIDDLE
op next time you bait, make it shorter
people are gonna see the length and not care
Ren Is Away Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:45pm 
wtf is a flare punch and why do they keep shilling that as part of why pyro apparently takes skill
76561198161596995 Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:45pm 
all class match ups ranked by fun, from most to least

1. everyone else
2. engi sniper heavy
3. vax medic
4. pyro
M4 Sherman Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
This is an exhaustive list of how each class's strategy changes when fighting different classes. It's just raw info listing each strategy. If you think it's "bait", you are just admitting that you are at odds with raw information.
Galaxander Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
YOU LITERALLY JUST MADE UP A POINT SYSTEM, DEEMED SOLDIER THE WORST AND PYRO THE BEST AND THE REST KINDA IN THE MIDDLE
ty for confirming what I assumed to be the case
Cat_Soldier Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:48pm 
All classes are w+m1
OrangeKRUSH Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:48pm 
Where do you get the time to write these multi-page essays
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Date Posted: Mar 23, 2023 @ 6:29pm
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