Woman-hating culture is ruining TF2

[Tutu 💚™🤎 ~^^)]

Like in any other multiplayer shooter, there are lots of misogynists. But let's focus on TF2.

In TF2, as a woman/feminine person, you have a higher chance (it's pretty big) of being harassed, insulted, sexually solicited or kicked if someone finds out you're a feminine person/opposite gender, especially if you speak in microphone with a feminine voice, everyone will tell you to "shut up" or that "you're fat", say stuff like "go to kitchen" and "serve some men". Mysogynists think that woman are home keepers, people (men) pleasers and say that they shouldn't play "boys" games. Mysogynists don't recognize women as invdividual persons, rather, as inferior creatures. Men will oftenly focus the "second gender" out of their prejudices and hate towards feminine persons and women.

Hating on women only ruins TF2, it doesn't prolong the life of the game, it destroys it. The female gaze is important, it helps to see things what man gaze cannot and improve the game experinece for women, not only men. If everything was built in the game through female gaze equally to men gaze, we would have more diversity and people playing TF2. Basically, everything is built for men, not woman, there's not even a single (playable) character to play as, which is bad. There's also misogynistic Spy's voice domination line when he dominates a Pyro saying "Good lord, you fight like a woman", which promotes stereotypes and hate towards women.

I've got some ideas on how we can fix this issue. Remove the Spy's voiceline, make female class reskins with professional women actors voice lines, actually hire moderators to monitor and ban/mute for mysogynistic behaviour, add special events on March 8, like hosting only women competitive matches, changing TF2's main menu on March 8 to suit international women's day, adding new content to the game, giving gifts that bring attention to issues such as gender equality, reproductive rights, and violence and abuse against women, making a felicitation devlog on March 8 or make a whole video about it in TF2 style.

An example (video) of mysogynistic behaviour that got over 300k likes with disgusting sexist comments like "сomedy in it's finest", "Me when women that "fought" for gender equality get drafted" and "When women say they deserve same pay as men". The example will be down in the comments.

[The BDA]

Livinmeme původně napsal:

Titus původně napsal:

eh idk normalising using a slur as a joke sounds like a pipeline to actual racism and shouldnt be on the table as a joke to begin with

theres a reason that even the most edgiest of comedians still have a filter and the social grace to understand that not all edgy joke humour has to revolve around normalising racism as a "joke"

Everything can be joked about, only a simpleton is so manipulable that he starts hating a group of people because he heared jokes about it

Everything CAN be joked about but not everything SHOULD be joked about

[BoPoe]

Da Playa původně napsal:

Misty Blu-2 původně napsal:

Ironic racism is just racism under the guise of irony to be trafficked into online communities. Cancerous behaviors in the TF2 community kill TF2 more than Valve not updating TF2 does.

Did you really have to bring racism of all things into this? And you have no way of proving that it isn't ironic. Do you just automatically believe a person is unironic the moment they say something you dislike? Seems pretty disingenuous to me. Especially when all the jokes are only said for hilarity sake most of the time. Stranger to think they're "trafficking" that kind of humour into other online communities.

And what exactly is cancerous behaviour? Have you ever considered that a person might consider something else is cancerous which you might think for otherwise? I honestly believe the changes and additions that the OP asks for is cancerous behaviour in its own right. And that most of what they say is under the guise of 'protecting women.' Like feminism hasn't already been ruined enough by modern feminists.
There's also all sorts of "cancerous behaviours" killing and ruining TF2 so you'll have to specify what exactly. In my opinion, e-sports and competitive players have been killing TF2 especially after the 'Meet Your Match' update came around.

Comp players are like 2% of the playerbase bruh they like the game that way. Even though i'm a comp player i like every version of TF2. Comp players say that if we make the competitive side of the game stronger, it will bring more players to it which i agree. That's one of the reasons why few old games still having a solid playerbase like Clash Royale and CS:GO. Also pls don't take people who never played competitive TF2 before and made a video about it serious*, please.

[76561198236851736]

BoPoe původně napsal:

Comp players are like 2% of the playerbase bruh they like the game that way. Even though i'm a comp player i like every version of TF2. Comp players say that if we make the competitive side of the game stronger, it will bring more players to it which i agree. That's one of the reasons why few old games still having a solid playerbase like Clash Royale and CS:GO. Also pls don't take people who never played competitive TF2 before and made a video about it serious*, please.

Of course you'll agree with the 2% of comp players. What about the 98% of the playerbase? It sounds like you all circlejerked each other's opinions and thought "yep, making TF2 more competitive will definitely somehow bring more players in." And really? Clash Royale? A mobile game? You must be joking.
I should clarify that competitive players are part of the reason why TF2 is dying. Not the sole reason, but part of it.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

Tututerok původně napsal:

Da Playa původně napsal:

Of course you'll agree with the 2% of comp players. What about the 98% of the playerbase? It sounds like you all circlejerked each other's opinions and thought "yep, making TF2 more competitive will definitely somehow bring more players in." And really? Clash Royale? A mobile game? You must be joking.
I should clarify that competitive players are part of the reason why TF2 is dying. Not the sole reason, but part of it.

The only things that destoy the remaining lifespan of the game are friendlies.

this kinda stupid because the graphics are already cartoony and most people on maps like 2fort are goofy and friendly
this isnt bf or cod where try hards are

[76561198236851736]

Tututerok původně napsal:

The only things that destoy the remaining lifespan of the game are friendlies.

How and why? If you're talking about the forced aggressive friendlies, I can understand but are you saying friendlies in general?

[BoPoe]

Da Playa původně napsal:

BoPoe původně napsal:

Comp players are like 2% of the playerbase bruh they like the game that way. Even though i'm a comp player i like every version of TF2. Comp players say that if we make the competitive side of the game stronger, it will bring more players to it which i agree. That's one of the reasons why few old games still having a solid playerbase like Clash Royale and CS:GO. Also pls don't take people who never played competitive TF2 before and made a video about it serious*, please.

Of course you'll agree with the 2% of comp players. What about the 98% of the playerbase? It sounds like you all circlejerked each other's opinions and thought "yep, making TF2 more competitive will definitely somehow bring more players in." And really? Clash Royale? A mobile game? You must be joking.
I should clarify that competitive players are part of the reason why TF2 is dying. Not the sole reason, but part of it.

No ♥♥♥♥, I started this game to play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game not to jerk off to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ unusual effects.

If CR stood as a casual game the game would've died after the Mega Knight. The 98% of the playerbase ain't ♥♥♥♥. that 98% of the playerbase at least the half of it doesn't even play the game. They either trade, stays as a friendly, cheats, hosting bots, plays a custom gamemode rather than the actual game etc.

The skill level of the whole playerbase is so low that when you do something so basic they call you tryhard for doing that.

Oh sorry, i don't play 100+ games, i know 3 IP's barely. Rest of the games i have on my library was because either my friends told me to buy the damn thing and play once or play a different game that is not shooter.

Other retarded games exist such as Valorant and Overwatch but i didn't want to give those as example because Blizzard and Riot games are straight up garbage.

Valorant also has a playerbase because of it's competitive design, overwatch 2 is also doing good despite the TF2 community thinks the game died with the hype.

Friendlies encourage griefing, filling up spaces in a First Person Shooter. They kick a person when you kill them. Their only purpose is to annoy people who is smarter than an amoeba and ruin the game straight up because of the retarded playerbase not killing the friendly but doing "haha kyoot hoovi lemme join!1!!111".

[Crazy Dave]

BoPoe původně napsal:

Da Playa původně napsal:

Of course you'll agree with the 2% of comp players. What about the 98% of the playerbase? It sounds like you all circlejerked each other's opinions and thought "yep, making TF2 more competitive will definitely somehow bring more players in." And really? Clash Royale? A mobile game? You must be joking.
I should clarify that competitive players are part of the reason why TF2 is dying. Not the sole reason, but part of it.

No ♥♥♥♥, I started this game to play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game not to jerk off to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ unusual effects.

If CR stood as a casual game the game would've died after the Mega Knight. The 98% of the playerbase ain't ♥♥♥♥. that 98% of the playerbase at least the half of it doesn't even play the game. They either trade, stays as a friendly, cheats, hosting bots, plays a custom gamemode rather than the actual game etc.

The skill level of the whole playerbase is so low that when you do something so basic they call you tryhard for doing that.

Oh sorry, i don't play 100+ games, i know 3 IP's barely. Rest of the games i have on my library was because either my friends told me to buy the damn thing and play once or play a different game that is not shooter.

Other retarded games exist such as Valorant and Overwatch but i didn't want to give those as example because Blizzard and Riot games are straight up garbage.

Valorant also has a playerbase because of it's competitive design, overwatch 2 is also doing good despite the TF2 community thinks the game died with the hype.

Friendlies encourage griefing, filling up spaces in a First Person Shooter. They kick a person when you kill them. Their only purpose is to annoy people who is smarter than an amoeba and ruin the game straight up because of the retarded playerbase not killing the friendly but doing "haha kyoot hoovi lemme join!1!!111".

Cr died after the latest update so thats why they shouldent update tf2

[BoPoe]

Crazy Dave původně napsal:

BoPoe původně napsal:

No ♥♥♥♥, I started this game to play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game not to jerk off to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ unusual effects.

If CR stood as a casual game the game would've died after the Mega Knight. The 98% of the playerbase ain't ♥♥♥♥. that 98% of the playerbase at least the half of it doesn't even play the game. They either trade, stays as a friendly, cheats, hosting bots, plays a custom gamemode rather than the actual game etc.

The skill level of the whole playerbase is so low that when you do something so basic they call you tryhard for doing that.

Oh sorry, i don't play 100+ games, i know 3 IP's barely. Rest of the games i have on my library was because either my friends told me to buy the damn thing and play once or play a different game that is not shooter.

Other retarded games exist such as Valorant and Overwatch but i didn't want to give those as example because Blizzard and Riot games are straight up garbage.

Valorant also has a playerbase because of it's competitive design, overwatch 2 is also doing good despite the TF2 community thinks the game died with the hype.

Friendlies encourage griefing, filling up spaces in a First Person Shooter. They kick a person when you kill them. Their only purpose is to annoy people who is smarter than an amoeba and ruin the game straight up because of the retarded playerbase not killing the friendly but doing "haha kyoot hoovi lemme join!1!!111".

Cr died after the latest update so thats why they shouldent update tf2

lol.

[Scrubwave]

Titus původně napsal:

Livinmeme původně napsal:

Everything can be joked about, only a simpleton is so manipulable that he starts hating a group of people because he heared jokes about it

Everything CAN be joked about but not everything SHOULD be joked about

Examples?

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Tututerok původně napsal:

󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Fei Jinping původně napsal:

this kinda stupid because the graphics are already cartoony and most people on maps like 2fort are goofy and friendly
this isnt bf or cod where try hards are

Fortnite has cartoony graphics, so spam (racial) slurs in chat, complain about being killed, idle, sabotage your team and ruin everyone's games, it's perfectly fine. It's cartoony, after all.

Most friendlies on 2fort are only friendly towards their fans or other friendliesl. If you dare to play the game, you will be getting death threats, various insults, friendlies stalking your profle and you will be kicked.

players are usually friendly in my area so i had no clue that they spam racist words in chat mb

[Sammy]

Yeah but it's funny lol

[76561198236851736]

BoPoe původně napsal:

No ♥♥♥♥, I started this game to play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game not to jerk off to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ unusual effects.

If CR stood as a casual game the game would've died after the Mega Knight. The 98% of the playerbase ain't ♥♥♥♥. that 98% of the playerbase at least the half of it doesn't even play the game. They either trade, stays as a friendly, cheats, hosting bots, plays a custom gamemode rather than the actual game etc.

The skill level of the whole playerbase is so low that when you do something so basic they call you tryhard for doing that.

Oh sorry, i don't play 100+ games, i know 3 IP's barely. Rest of the games i have on my library was because either my friends told me to buy the damn thing and play once or play a different game that is not shooter.
Other retarded games exist such as Valorant and Overwatch but i didn't want to give those as example because Blizzard and Riot games are straight up garbage.
Valorant also has a playerbase because of it's competitive design, overwatch 2 is also doing good despite the TF2 community thinks the game died with the hype.

Friendlies encourage griefing, filling up spaces in a First Person Shooter. They kick a person when you kill them. Their only purpose is to annoy people who is smarter than an amoeba and ruin the game straight up because of the retarded playerbase not killing the friendly but doing "haha kyoot hoovi lemme join!1!!111".

Maybe you should brush up on your English a bit and reread what I've typed.

What does 'Clash Royale' have to do with TF2 beyond competitive nonsense?
You act as if it's all the playerbase does, but I bet you just ignore majority of the player base and the custom servers while you play MGE with your small competitive population. Or maybe you just go to a server and ♥♥♥♥ on friendlies just because they trigger you the moment you see one.

Are you so narcissistic that you honestly believe you and your little competitive population is somehow more skilled than the ENTIRE playerbase?
Do you even realise why majority of the player base doesn't like competitive in TF2? They don't like it because they're not skilled, they don't like it because the comp players are desperate for e-sports garbage because they don't want to get a job for money. Meaning they have to DRASTICALLY change the game just to adhere to competitive garbage.

Who cares if you play 100+ games or not? That's not what I'm focused on, and I don't care about your life choices involving your "friends."

You don't want to give Valorant and Overwatch as an example but then do so later anyway, pretty pointless to say all of that then, huh?
Those games don't have a player base just because it's competitively designed. They only have a population because they're just trend-chasing games that focus on e-sports trash while pandering to woke sensibilities. These games aren't even interesting for anything else beyond competitive garbage or Twitch streamer advertisements.

What are friendlies griefing besides your K/D and W/L ratio for CASUAL mode? They'll either appear most of the time in community servers and randomly in casual. Do you honestly think they'll queue up for competitive mode at all? You even act as if friendlies will make an impact in a 12v12 where 5-6 players will always do majority of the work.

I understand that there are aggressive friendlies which can be annoying and ruin the experience, but you won't find them in casual mode all the time. So you must be sweating on friendlies in community servers just to annoy them, even if they are annoying themselves. That's literally your problem you self-inflicted. However, I'm only assuming that.

Type less please, maybe you'll get your point across.

[EBI≡]

is this copypasta?? hahahahahahaha Thank you Jesus.

[Snakester]

It sure looks like a copypasta. Holy crap.

[Ellie ⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦]

dont give any awards to this troll