Team Fortress 2
Is TF2 trading alive?
I used to trade back in the day. I am hoping to get back into but not sure whether it died. I am interested in trading high value items such as unusuals?

Why the hell is key 57 ref???? I remember it being 2.
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it is quite literally all bots who will undercut you each and every single time without fail.

it's dead. don't bother.
Mcfighter2 Sep 10, 2023 @ 9:23am 
It was barely worth it before and it’s definitely not worth it now.
Bob Sep 10, 2023 @ 9:24am 
It's hard to shark (scam) people so no.
90054321564584560 Sep 10, 2023 @ 11:32am 
nah not worth it. good items are even harder to find now due to lower supplies
Tsumugi Sep 10, 2023 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Internet Biohazard:
it is quite literally all bots who will undercut you each and every single time without fail.

it's dead. don't bother.
Literally f*cking this. I've been trying to sell my Blizzardy Storm Tundra Top (which I bought for 55 keys a few months back) and all of the "people" with buy orders on bptf are just bots, offering to buy for 36 keys. Nearly 20 less than what I bought it for. Trading sucks and I feel sick to my stomach every time I see someone with an inventory just filled to the brim with Unusuals and other rare items.
Skolver Sep 10, 2023 @ 11:42am 
Yes it's alive. but its automated more or less. human interaction is still there though it isnt common unless its mid-high tier trading where a robot isnt going to suffice.
Low tier trading for profit is dead for sure.
Not sure about higher tier trading.
Originally posted by loX:
Is TF2 trading still alive?
i hope not
dag Sep 10, 2023 @ 12:08pm 
No
Witch Sep 10, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
it's alive, tho selling warpainted weapons is really difficult unless they're strange or unusual

The price of keys increased because of the increasing amount of refined metal
Only trade to get all the gameplay unique items, but please don't get into getting stupid cosmetic items. It's just not worth it.
76561199546627046 Sep 10, 2023 @ 12:37pm 
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The trading scene is a dead rotting corpse controlled by TF2's equivalent of mega-corporations and monopolies.

What started out as a neat little idea to let others socialize with each other outside of tf2 and trade hats for other hats became a starting point for the most corrupt part of TF2. Trading on the outside sounds like a cool idea, being a modernized form of pokemon cards or baseball card. A nice little idea to trade for something you want by giving something someone else wants. Sites begun popping up making it easier for people to trade. It was fun at first, with people getting what they wanted or even being able to make a profit, until the corporations and high tier traders saw the potential. One such monopoly was scrap.tf. The era of scrapbanking was over, and now was funneled through this large website, taking in all traffic, killing of a small part of trading for beginners. Although not very profitable, it was a warning of what was to come. With the rise of marketplace.tf, trading bots, and the acquisition of backpack.tf, high tier traders and monopolies converted a fun concept to a large business empire.

The monopoly of scrap.tf is similar to the Monopoly of The Standard Oil Company. Scrap.tf even controls 97% of the economy. They have the power of backpack.tf, allowing them the power to set prices of items, allowing them to profit what they think, and what their high tier trading buddies think something should be priced. In addition to interference with youtubers raising the price of certain items, or traders ability to shut down anything that Valve does to make trading easier, you are left with a system that only benefits the major monopolies and the 1% of high tier traders.

Getting into trading in todays day and age is a bad idea. You are playing a game that was constructed around the richest players and you will lose. Trading will only make you lose time and money, which is exactly what traders want you to think so you buy from them directly. If you do decide to go into trading, you will be faced by hundreds upon hundreds of TF2 trading bots that basically make it impossible to trade unless you undercut your prices. In addition if you spend hundreds of dollars to go straight into unusual trading, lower tier unusuals are automated in this current day and age, and high tier trading is playing against the richest TF2 players ever, meaning you will not make any profit and are just destined to lose. Even if you hypothetically get one good trade, you run into the possibility of price manipulation and just everyone undercutting you from the original value.

Do not play the traders game and do not trade. Instead, enjoy playing the game. Traders want to make you believe you need expensive items to play the game, but all you need is just your ability and will to play. Ignore all the stupid unusuals, and return to the gibus hat.
Mcfighter2 Sep 10, 2023 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by mfw:
The trading scene is a dead rotting corpse controlled by TF2's equivalent of mega-corporations and monopolies.

What started out as a neat little idea to let others socialize with each other outside of tf2 and trade hats for other hats became a starting point for the most corrupt part of TF2. Trading on the outside sounds like a cool idea, being a modernized form of pokemon cards or baseball card. A nice little idea to trade for something you want by giving something someone else wants. Sites begun popping up making it easier for people to trade. It was fun at first, with people getting what they wanted or even being able to make a profit, until the corporations and high tier traders saw the potential. One such monopoly was scrap.tf. The era of scrapbanking was over, and now was funneled through this large website, taking in all traffic, killing of a small part of trading for beginners. Although not very profitable, it was a warning of what was to come. With the rise of marketplace.tf, trading bots, and the acquisition of backpack.tf, high tier traders and monopolies converted a fun concept to a large business empire.

The monopoly of scrap.tf is similar to the Monopoly of The Standard Oil Company. Scrap.tf even controls 97% of the economy. They have the power of backpack.tf, allowing them the power to set prices of items, allowing them to profit what they think, and what their high tier trading buddies think something should be priced. In addition to interference with youtubers raising the price of certain items, or traders ability to shut down anything that Valve does to make trading easier, you are left with a system that only benefits the major monopolies and the 1% of high tier traders.

Getting into trading in todays day and age is a bad idea. You are playing a game that was constructed around the richest players and you will lose. Trading will only make you lose time and money, which is exactly what traders want you to think so you buy from them directly. If you do decide to go into trading, you will be faced by hundreds upon hundreds of TF2 trading bots that basically make it impossible to trade unless you undercut your prices. In addition if you spend hundreds of dollars to go straight into unusual trading, lower tier unusuals are automated in this current day and age, and high tier trading is playing against the richest TF2 players ever, meaning you will not make any profit and are just destined to lose. Even if you hypothetically get one good trade, you run into the possibility of price manipulation and just everyone undercutting you from the original value.

Do not play the traders game and do not trade. Instead, enjoy playing the game. Traders want to make you believe you need expensive items to play the game, but all you need is just your ability and will to play. Ignore all the stupid unusuals, and return to the gibus hat.
What's the TF2 equivalent to the Jewish question?
Tsumugi Sep 10, 2023 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by mfw:
The trading scene is a dead rotting corpse controlled by TF2's equivalent of mega-corporations and monopolies.

What started out as a neat little idea to let others socialize with each other outside of tf2 and trade hats for other hats became a starting point for the most corrupt part of TF2. Trading on the outside sounds like a cool idea, being a modernized form of pokemon cards or baseball card. A nice little idea to trade for something you want by giving something someone else wants. Sites begun popping up making it easier for people to trade. It was fun at first, with people getting what they wanted or even being able to make a profit, until the corporations and high tier traders saw the potential. One such monopoly was scrap.tf. The era of scrapbanking was over, and now was funneled through this large website, taking in all traffic, killing of a small part of trading for beginners. Although not very profitable, it was a warning of what was to come. With the rise of marketplace.tf, trading bots, and the acquisition of backpack.tf, high tier traders and monopolies converted a fun concept to a large business empire.

The monopoly of scrap.tf is similar to the Monopoly of The Standard Oil Company. Scrap.tf even controls 97% of the economy. They have the power of backpack.tf, allowing them the power to set prices of items, allowing them to profit what they think, and what their high tier trading buddies think something should be priced. In addition to interference with youtubers raising the price of certain items, or traders ability to shut down anything that Valve does to make trading easier, you are left with a system that only benefits the major monopolies and the 1% of high tier traders.

Getting into trading in todays day and age is a bad idea. You are playing a game that was constructed around the richest players and you will lose. Trading will only make you lose time and money, which is exactly what traders want you to think so you buy from them directly. If you do decide to go into trading, you will be faced by hundreds upon hundreds of TF2 trading bots that basically make it impossible to trade unless you undercut your prices. In addition if you spend hundreds of dollars to go straight into unusual trading, lower tier unusuals are automated in this current day and age, and high tier trading is playing against the richest TF2 players ever, meaning you will not make any profit and are just destined to lose. Even if you hypothetically get one good trade, you run into the possibility of price manipulation and just everyone undercutting you from the original value.

Do not play the traders game and do not trade. Instead, enjoy playing the game. Traders want to make you believe you need expensive items to play the game, but all you need is just your ability and will to play. Ignore all the stupid unusuals, and return to the gibus hat.
If I had enough Steam Points to give you an award, I would. Someone had to come out and say this sh*t. High-tier traders are some of the biggest scumbags on the planet and will literally just hoard items with zero intention to ever use them. The fact that scraptf doesn't even count for killstreak kits when you sell items there is absolutely disgusting. I have a Strange Professional Killstreak Air Strike that I could probably sell for maybe 3 and a half keys if I'm lucky. You wanna know how much Scraptf offers me? 19.44 ref. Screw this site and screw trading. My dream hat is a Starstorm Slumber Crone's Dome and I'm literally never going to get it because the few that exist are in the inventories of hoarders who don't use the hat, they just wanna make sure that I and anyone who wants to use it, can't unless we pay thousands of dollars in keys for a virtual item in a game going on 2 decades old. :seriousboss:
kuz Sep 10, 2023 @ 12:49pm 
No. Money-laundering traderoaches killed it.
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Date Posted: Sep 10, 2023 @ 9:00am
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