TF2 and Overwatch (the final comparison)

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ok so time to put the nail in the coffin with the whole TF2 vs Overwatch argument, having played both games heres the key differences and comparisons both games have and the proof that one is not better than the other.

I've reorganised the OP to show the pros and cons of both games from my experiences, add what you will to it.

TF2 pros:

• More customization options with hat, cosmetic and paint combos to create a unique look.
  
  
• Access to hammer map editor to create and edit maps which has brought hundreds of new custom and unofficial themed maps to TF2 such as maps from old Nintendo games.
  
  
• Ability to dance around the game world and interact with your team and enemy with a large choice of taunts.
  
  
• Unique characters with strong personalities.
  
  
• free to play with no hidden fees.
  
  
• different weapon choices which can effect gameplay style.
  
  
• more gamemodes and the ability to play against AI for loot (mvm)
  
  
• an ingame drop system for weapons and cosmetics
  
  
• an active trading community

TF2 cons:

• old game engine that is prone to bugs and glitches.
  
  
• lack of worthwhile updates
  
  
• poor community that has a tendancy to abuse the vote kick system.
  
  
• F2P and easy to access means lots of kids which can be immature on the mic to older players which can be annoying.
  
  
• splash damage feels too high which makes the explosive classes (demoman, soldier) output high amounts of damage even without aiming much.
  
  
• random crits which decide the outcome of fights based solely on RNG over skill. (some people like crits but generally most people hate them)
  
  
• auto balance which can throw you on the losing team mid game despite you earning the victory.
  
  
• a domination system which can pull people away from the team orientated gameplay to focus more on killing a single target and can also cause some players to get frustrated.

Overwatch pros:

• newer game engine runs more smoothly on modern pcs and has less glitches.
  
  
• promises of new content added free of charge
  
  
• paid game means less kids in your games which older players will enjoy.
  
  
• more choices of hero/class to pick meaning theres something for everybody to enjoy.
  
  
• many achievements and unlockables to earn aswell as progression through a leveling system.
  
  
• ults are fun and add something fresh to an fps style game, they can turn the tide of a game if used well or throw a game if used badly.
  
  
• no domination system to take your mind off the objective to go get a revenge kill, so everybody is always playing the objective instead of run and gun one guy.
  
  
• teams are fixed and you will never be thrown onto the enemy team if someone leaves, the game will just bring in a new player that is queueing for a match.
  
  
• crits can be earned though careful aiming. it is possible to get crits via headshots and these are marked at x2 normal damage whilst widowmaker (the sniper class) deals slightly more.
  
  
• no ammo boxes, you still need to reload when your clip is empty but you never go out of ammo and need to look for an ammo box, however health packs do exist in various sizes.

Overwatch cons:

• £40 game, no free trial option before purchasing (this could change).
  
  
• lack of map customization, there are currently only 12 maps in the game vs TF2's 100's and no way for the community to contribute new maps.
  
  
• no ability to host community servers and no server browser meaning communites can't have the same impact as they do with TF2.
  
  
• lack of unique customization with only skins and no workshop for community to create ideas for skins. However skin contests may become a thing.
  
  
• meta team comps, I have noticed if a team has chosen all the highest tier heroes the team becomes impossible to break down, think 12 engineers on turbine levels of defence with no uber available, I have studied tier lists and discussions and conclude that indeed a comp of certain heroes can beat any other team and this is a major downfall as it stops people playing a hero that they enjoy over a hero that will win.
  
  
• no choice of weapon which limits playstyle to what would be stock playstyle in TF2.
  
  
• some ults are way more powerful than other ults and some require skill to pull of whilst others are just press M1 and kill the entire enemy team.
  
  
• no vote kick feature, while this in a way could be good to stop the abuse TF2 vote kicking gets, its harsh on decent players that can't win a match because their team is full of AFK people or trolls.
  
  
• no custom avatars, avatars are unlocked through playing and achievements, there is no way to add a custom avatar.
  
  
• no trading community so everything in game you need to earn unless microtransactions are added.
  
  
• Microtransactions despite having a price tag for the game.
  
  
• has a growing amount of hackers in game and with no vote kick there is no way to remove cheaters from your game.
  
  
• 20 tickrate.
  
  
• Matchmaking claims to match you with similar players but instead matches level 1's with level 30s.
  
  
• Sniping is really cancerous and makes the TF2 sniper look perfectly fine. Also 20 tick with sniping...yeah.

Similarities of the two

• Pharah is very much like a soldier with base jumper, however she is actually balanced and splash damage does very little damage so direct rocket hits are the best way to go which require aiming ability. Something which sadly does'nt reflect in the TF2 soldier who can destroy entire teams with his splash damage alone.
  
  
• Mercy is basically medic with great mobility and the ability to heal + damage buff with her weapon by using M1 and M2 respectively. Her ult is remnant to medics res in mvm but works as an aoe res which is awesome when going for a win, if your team is pushing and gets taken out if timed correctly mercy can bring the team back and turn the tide, very useful.
  
  
• Some heroes have a shield which is very similar to the medic shield in mvm, seeing things similar to mvm in pvp is interesting and works quite well. I don't know the impact such things would have on TF2 but I believe it would make the medic quite overpowered.
  
  
• both games have web comics which introduce you to the lore of the games universe and also the characters personality.
  
  
• both games have sprays, however the sprays on overwatch are unlockable per hero and there is no way to upload custom sprays.

overall both games are strong and weak in different areas, thus why one wont kill the other.

as always this is not a final list, I will probably have more to add later but this will have to do for now.

[Sun of TrOgDoR]

引用自 BIG BLUE TAIKO DRUM：

Has nobody noticed that all scout needs to do is destroy tracer's ironman chest thingy to win. All of her power is completely reliant on that thing, without it, she would literally be a ghost. In one of the cinematics, widowmaker kicks her in the chest and completely puts her out of the fight despite surviving gunshots and even a poison mine.

Yeah, it's kinda really stupid that the thing that keeps Tracer anchored to this time-space is worn front-and-center where it can be easily shot. And if Widowmaker could destroy it with a kick, Scout's scatterguns won't have a problem

Dropped the ball there did ya, Winston?

[bigtrebuchet]

TF2 is less pay to win than overwatch, actually.

[DeafMassacre]

引用自 EverythingDuck：

TF2 is less pay to win than overwatch, actually.

sure but a big problem is aimbot, alot player use aimbot in tf2.

I did use aimbot for test fair compare tf and ow and dont get ban in tf2, overwatch get ban faster than tf2

[Shrep]

Hey, is English your secondary language my dude?

[DeafMassacre]

引用自 Shrep：

Hey, is English your secondary language my dude? :sunglassesDoge:

nope I am deaf. bad education in my country

[Shrep]

引用自 DeafMassacre：

引用自 Shrep：

Hey, is English your secondary language my dude?

nope I am deaf. bad education in my country

Even deaf people can have proper grammar too.

[DeafMassacre]

引用自 Shrep：

引用自 DeafMassacre：

nope I am deaf. bad education in my country

Even deaf people can have proper grammar too.

I did but not all can get good education in the school.
but you can understand what I write. what is problem?

back to title about overwatch and tf2.

[mrbunnyjr]

they're different games. so saying which one is better is an opinion

[PeopledMage]

>inb4 X better than X salt

[Shrep]

They can both exist.

Please don't use that GameTheory cringe as a point.

[Sevil]

Don't Touch The Poop

[Mimmy]

引用自 DeafMassacre：

引用自 EverythingDuck：

TF2 is less pay to win than overwatch, actually.

sure but a big problem is aimbot, alot player use aimbot in tf2.

I did use aimbot for test fair compare tf and ow and dont get ban in tf2, overwatch get ban faster than tf2

Oh you wasted 40$? Poor soul

[Cereg]

引用自 DeafMassacre：

Number never lie

alright then, i am 800 years old and i have 500 trillion $$$

引用自 DeafMassacre：

http://prnt.sc/c9crbz

that data just shows that daily / weekly / monthly peak decreased - so it only shows highest peak of active players in the same time but not every one is only in the same time, so it does not show number of active players in the same day / week / month but highest peak of active players at the same time (i hope that's understandable)

引用自 JAKQFourCyborgs：

And almost 10M players voted on Heavy vs. Pyro war recently. The game is not dead.

^this

[Scott, President of Dominos]

-play heavy or engineer
-true
-true
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op rly make u think, I now #suckcrotch4overwatch

[Generic]

引用自 DeafMassacre：

Number never lie, since overwatch release 24. May
http://prnt.sc/c9crbz
tf2 lost over 40k online player, all player from tf2 jump to blizzard overwatch.

bye tf2 lol I like when you are angry about that..sorry for true

Yet tf2 still has over 50K players and are still gaining more.