Why do people take casual so seriously?

[Fluffers]

I just got kicked from a game for using the rocket jumper and flying around trying to get market gardner kills.

In old pubs, no one would have even thought twice about it. "Oh look, that guy's flying around the map trying to slap people with a shovel. That's normal."

But somewhere along the line, valve has seemingly pounded this competitive atmosphere into the game so hard that people get pissed if you don't play at your maximum potential in a [bold]non competitive game mode[/bold].

It's just sad really, I'm trying to have some cute fun with the rocket jumper, giving quick fix medics a ride and ♥♥♥♥, and buzzkill mcbuzzkillington spends his entire time trying to vote kick me every time the cooldown runs out.

[Pakaku]

Getting chewed out for using a joke weapon and contributing nothing to your team? I think that's justified.

[Fluffers]

Originally posted by Pakaku:

Getting chewed out for using a joke weapon and contributing nothing to your team? I think that's justified.

In a completely non-competitive game mode that was a replacement for old pubs?

How is that justified? If you want a competitive atmosphere then play competitive. Otherwise you're at no liberty to complain about someone playing casually in a casual game mode.

[iSmile02]

Originally posted by Pakaku:

Getting chewed out for using a joke weapon and contributing nothing to your team in a non-competitive gamemode which has no lasting effect whatsoever and is only meant for fun?

Fixed it for you. I don't think that's justified.

[The Red Snifit]

Originally posted by Fluffers:

In a completely non-casual game mode that was a replacement for old pubs?

How is that justified? If you want a competitive atmosphere then play competitive. Otherwise you're at no liberty to complain about someone playing casually in a casual game mode.

It's "Team Fortress," not "Do Whatever You Want Fortress." If the majority of your team thinks you're a waste of a slot, they have every right to boot you.

Join a Hightower server.

[iSmile02]

Originally posted by Serial Peacemaker:

Originally posted by Fluffers:

In a completely non-casual game mode that was a replacement for old pubs?

How is that justified? If you want a competitive atmosphere then play competitive. Otherwise you're at no liberty to complain about someone playing casually in a casual game mode.

It's "Team Fortress," not "Do Whatever You Want Fortress." If the majority of your team thinks you're a waste of a slot, they have every right to boot you.

Join a Hightower server.

Let's be honest, have you ever seen a team working as.. well, a team? Because I sure haven't.

[Fluffers]

Originally posted by Serial Peacemaker:

It's "Team Fortress," not "Do Whatever You Want Fortress." If the majority of your team thinks you're a waste of a slot, they have every right to boot you.

Join a Hightower server.

I'll reiterate my point; if you want a competitive atmosphere with a team that will coordinate with you and actually play properly, then go to competitive. People should not have to be sweaty nerds IN A CASUAL GAME MODE IN THE MOST CASUAL ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FIRST PERSON SHOOTER THAT HAS LITERALLY EVER EXISTED.

[Charlie5L]

Casual is basically the thin line between Pubs and Competitive. It's competitive, but not as strict, not as rewarding, basically a really light version of Competitive.

When MYM came out, everyone was whining and complaining about Casual but people are creatures of habit and eventually got used to Casual. You can still mess around with the Rocket Jumper, but your best bet is just to go to Hightower. Other maps, good luck. Most people are expecting to win nowadays.

[Azure]

Originally posted by Fluffers:

Originally posted by Serial Peacemaker:

It's "Team Fortress," not "Do Whatever You Want Fortress." If the majority of your team thinks you're a waste of a slot, they have every right to boot you.

Join a Hightower server.

I'll reiterate my point; if you want a competitive atmosphere with a team that will coordinate with you and actually play properly, then go to competitive. People should not have to be sweaty nerds IN A CASUAL GAME MODE IN THE MOST CASUAL ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FIRST PERSON SHOOTER THAT HAS LITERALLY EVER EXISTED.

Thats why a lot of players left because of the way valve promoted competitive, but at the same time comepetitive gameplay attracted new comers

[Fluffers]

Originally posted by Azure:

Thats why a lot of players left because of the way valve promoted competitive, but at the same time comepetitive gameplay attracted new comers

So you still think that it's justified to kick someone because they're having fun with the rocket jumper?

Can any of you comprehend how autistically sweaty you have to be to take casual seriously? TF2 is already literally the most casual first person shooter that has ever existed, and in the casual game mode, people should be expected to be on their a-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-game and be a tryhard nerd?

If that's the general consensus these days then I can't actually be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to keep playing dude.

[The Red Snifit]

Originally posted by Fluffers:

I'll reiterate my point; if you want a competitive atmosphere with a team that will coordinate with you and actually play properly, then go to competitive. People should not have to be sweaty nerds IN A CASUAL GAME MODE IN THE MOST CASUAL ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FIRST PERSON SHOOTER THAT HAS LITERALLY EVER EXISTED.

If you want an atmosphere where you can mess around and do whatever you want, there are a number of pseudo-TDM maps that nobody plays the objective on. The vast majority of community servers also have that atmosphere.

A casual match on Upward simply isn't that. If you aren't contributing whatsoever, people aren't going to see you as much better than an AFK.

[Fluffers]

Originally posted by Serial Peacemaker:

If you want an atmosphere where you can mess around and do whatever you want, there are a number of pseudo-TDM maps that nobody plays the objective on. The vast majority of community servers also have that atmosphere.

A casual match on Upward simply isn't that. If you aren't contributing whatsoever, people aren't going to see you as much better than an AFK.

IT

IS

CASUAL

Like, do people not understand what the definition of casual is? Are you capable of reading? Is your english comprehension up to par?

[Ace42]

Originally posted by Fluffers:

I just got kicked from a game for using the rocket jumper and flying around trying to get market gardner kills.

Good.

In old pubs, no one would have even thought twice about it.

No. Just because you got away with being an inconsiderate ♥♥♥♥, didn't mean no-one else was irked by it.

But somewhere along the line, valve has seemingly pounded this competitive atmosphere into the game

The game has been an adversarial team-based competition since the day it was created.

The fact that a bunch of scrubby F2Ps flooded the game en masse, and turned it into a creche just because they were too poor or ignorant to get Garry's Mod instead, isn't a justification of how bad the vanilla experience had become.

so hard that people get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you don't play at your maximum potential

Hyperbolic nonsense. They don't *know* what your maximum potential is; the problem is you not playing in a manner that meets the bare requirements for consideracy.

in a [bold]non competitive game mode[/bold].

Before you play any map for the first there is a clear explanation of what the round's objective is, presented via the projector.

"Casual" does not mean "there's no objective or goal" - and there is not a single game in the world where this is otherwise.

If you are looking for a social / openworld situation, there's community servers, trade plazas, etc. THOSE are running the game-modes you are thinking of.

It's just sad really,

No, what's sad is entitled ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ handicapping their team and acting like it's their god given right to screw over a server of potentially 23 other people.

I'm trying to have some cute fun with the rocket jumper, giving quick fix medics a ride and ♥♥♥♥, and buzzkill mcbuzzkillington spends his entire time trying to vote kick me every time the cooldown runs out.

Good, hopefully it will pass enough for you to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ yourself.

[lung_caster]

Originally posted by Fluffers:

Originally posted by Serial Peacemaker:

If you want an atmosphere where you can mess around and do whatever you want, there are a number of pseudo-TDM maps that nobody plays the objective on. The vast majority of community servers also have that atmosphere.

A casual match on Upward simply isn't that. If you aren't contributing whatsoever, people aren't going to see you as much better than an AFK.

IT

IS

CASUAL

Like, do people not understand what the definition of casual is? Are you capable of reading? Is your english comprehension up to par?

Sure, he may be wrong but valve can't fix players. It's no one's fault that people are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You just need to get lucky the next time you queue.

[Comrade Spacebar]

Well, if you want to do that you should probably find a community server.

[Mosker | B> With 1900 pure]

i got kicked for using the sticky jumper and my god it insane