TF2 IN 64 BITS ?

[justin.langlois]

Hey,
I know Macs were never meant to be gaming machines. However, I recently acquired a Mac M1, a machine powerful enough to play TF2 without problems. But the latest versions of MAC OS no longer allow the use of old versions of 32-BIT games. Please, is it possible to update TF2 to 62 BITS? This game is so awesome..

[TRethehedgehog]

Originally posted by The Xenoblade guy:

Originally posted by TRethehedgehog:

How did you get steam running
Isn’t that a 32 bit program

Since steam is just electron
My best guess is that Valve compiled steam for 64 bit on MacOS, yet stays 32 bit on all other platforms to make sure that it even works on the last 2 people left on the planet playing games on their 32 bit machines :P
(no hate towards the people still using such old hardware)

That reminds me I still have a windows so laptop

The windows 7 laptop i had was converted to linux

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Originally posted by TRethehedgehog:

How did you get steam running
Isn’t that a 32 bit program

Steam is 64-bit.

[Der tüddelige Fußgänger]

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Originally posted by TRethehedgehog:

How did you get steam running
Isn’t that a 32 bit program

Steam is 64-bit.

Just for MacOS
At least on Archlinux, steam is only available on the multilib repo, which contains 32-bit software. If it was 64-bit, steam would likely be in the community repo instead.
And it's likely 32 bit on windows too, since windows 10 still supports 32-bit computers. Tho i think Steam will now also slowly transition to 64-bit, since windows 11 now also kills 32-bit support (on the hardware site, 32-bit applications are unaffected)

[ఆ]

Downgrade to Mojave.

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Originally posted by Johλn:

Downgrade to Mojave.

first batch of M1s can only run Big Sur and later, and most others can only run Monterey.

[ఆ]

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Originally posted by Johλn:

Downgrade to Mojave.

first batch of M1s can only run Big Sur and later, and most others can only run Monterey.

If so, the only feasible method is allocating some of your disk to install win10 via bootcamp and play TF2 there.

[Gabeznl]

You can't, but a 64 bits client would for sure boost your FPS up.

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Originally posted by Johλn:

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

first batch of M1s can only run Big Sur and later, and most others can only run Monterey.

If so, the only feasible method is allocating some of your disk to install win10 via bootcamp and play TF2 there.

Windows 10 only supports x86. Also bootcamp sucks.

The closest thing one could do is use Parallels to install Windows 11, (which I've used for other games and have been impressed with the performance, haven't tried TF2) but that's pricey, even on sale it's ~$75.

There's also UTM, which is very good but doesn't perform as well as parallels, and is more technically involved.

there's a video on youtube by a guy called Mr Mac Right that had TF2 running on an M1 Air through a program called Crossover, which had good performance normally but unplayable stuttering intermittently. I wouldn't recommend it.

[Der tüddelige Fußgänger]

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Originally posted by Johλn:

If so, the only feasible method is allocating some of your disk to install win10 via bootcamp and play TF2 there.

Windows 10 only supports x86. Also bootcamp sucks.

The closest thing one could do is use Parallels to install Windows 11, (which I've used for other games and have been impressed with the performance, haven't tried TF2) but that's pricey, even on sale it's ~$75.

There's also UTM, which is very good but doesn't perform as well as parallels, and is more technically involved.

there's a video on youtube by a guy called Mr Mac Right that had TF2 running on an M1 Air through a program called Crossover, which had good performance normally but unplayable stuttering intermittently. I wouldn't recommend it.

Wait doesn't windows also support arm?
I am sure it supports it (and it had to at some point for the windows phones), yet i don't know how well the software support is by Microsoft and third partys.

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Originally posted by The Xenoblade guy:

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Windows 10 only supports x86. Also bootcamp sucks.

The closest thing one could do is use Parallels to install Windows 11, (which I've used for other games and have been impressed with the performance, haven't tried TF2) but that's pricey, even on sale it's ~$75.

There's also UTM, which is very good but doesn't perform as well as parallels, and is more technically involved.

there's a video on youtube by a guy called Mr Mac Right that had TF2 running on an M1 Air through a program called Crossover, which had good performance normally but unplayable stuttering intermittently. I wouldn't recommend it.

Wait doesn't windows also support arm?
I am sure it supports it (and it had to at some point for the windows phones), yet i don't know how well the software support is by Microsoft and third partys.

Only Windows 11 Insider Preview supports ARM at the moment, and the only way to install it on M1 Macs is through Parallels.

[Noob Fam]

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Originally posted by The Xenoblade guy:

Wait doesn't windows also support arm?
I am sure it supports it (and it had to at some point for the windows phones), yet i don't know how well the software support is by Microsoft and third partys.

Only Windows 11 Insider Preview supports ARM at the moment, and the only way to install it on M1 Macs is through Parallels.

Idk I’m using parallels on my 2018 Mac with the touch bar and it kinda sucks. Would bootcamp be better for this computer? I wanna install but I tried on my last computer and it got corrupted cuz I did silly things

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Originally posted by Noob Fam:

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Only Windows 11 Insider Preview supports ARM at the moment, and the only way to install it on M1 Macs is through Parallels.

Idk I’m using parallels on my 2018 Mac with the touch bar and it kinda sucks. Would bootcamp be better for this computer? I wanna install but I tried on my last computer and it got corrupted cuz I did silly things

You could try Bootcamp, but if that fails you could install Windows 10 the standard way (use Disk Utility to make a partition, Download Windows 10 from Microsoft's Website, or purchase it, make a bootable Windows 10 USB, hold "option" after boot chime, then select the bootable USB, then install to your partition or external drive)

The other-est option is to do a Linux partition (using the same method) and play using it if you're just gonna do TF2 and rely on Proton.

When I had my 2016 Macbook Pro I tried bootcamp and it just gave me fits, so if you're willing to follow a tutorial installing without using bootcamp is probably a better solution.

(Rumors indicate the decision to move to Apple Silicon were made in 2015, when Intel's delays began, so I'd theorize Bootcamp development ended there.)

[Team Fortress 2]

Originally posted by The Xenoblade guy:

Originally posted by The deadly Cutsman:

https://youtu.be/fUA5ZzNY70A

actually since 64-bit cpus can (effectively) use an infinite amount of ram.
We could get 8k textures ingame. Totally worth the engine-rewrite

who do you know with a computer with 17,179,869,184 gb ram

[ospholis]

Imagine buying a mac for gaming, the earbud promo expired a long ago dude there's no reason to use a mac for gaming

[Noob Fam]

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Originally posted by Noob Fam:

Idk I’m using parallels on my 2018 Mac with the touch bar and it kinda sucks. Would bootcamp be better for this computer? I wanna install but I tried on my last computer and it got corrupted cuz I did silly things

You could try Bootcamp, but if that fails you could install Windows 10 the standard way (use Disk Utility to make a partition, Download Windows 10 from Microsoft's Website, or purchase it, make a bootable Windows 10 USB, hold "option" after boot chime, then select the bootable USB, then install to your partition or external drive)

The other-est option is to do a Linux partition (using the same method) and play using it if you're just gonna do TF2 and rely on Proton.

When I had my 2016 Macbook Pro I tried bootcamp and it just gave me fits, so if you're willing to follow a tutorial installing without using bootcamp is probably a better solution.

(Rumors indicate the decision to move to Apple Silicon were made in 2015, when Intel's delays began, so I'd theorize Bootcamp development ended there.)

Can you link a good tutorial? Cuz I honestly don’t know what to search up