Why is pyro the most hated class?

[ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ]

EDIT: this is not a complain about pyro for no reason other than pyro kills you a lot and it’s annoying or something dumb like that. Please provide reasons. Like damn

I just don’t get it! Why do people give pyro so much unnecessary flack?! I can’t even hop into a game and get 1 kill without some needle-weenie nerd calling me a W+M1 noob. Even tho I rarely W+M1, and I’m really good with flares and combos. I can be really good on defense and offense, I’m a jack of all trades, master of none, BUT a master of none is better than a master of one like most soldiers and snipers are. I try my best to be good but I keep being labeled as a noob, hell, HEAVIES are a W+M1 pyro’s wet dream. Unless it’s a phlog pyro, heavies shred pyros like a hot knife through butter. I can’t do ♥♥♥♥ to most heavies unless I get the drop on them. Heavy has a way lower skill ceiling than pyro and pyro has a higher skill ceiling than perceived. Most people hate pyro because they’re bad and die to them way too much. I’m just good, but usually it’s the new install pyros getting crap, which really discourages them from playing the class they like. Why are we like this? We should hate some other class for a bit. We’ve gotten hated on since 2007! Jeebus!
Here’s a good vid to support my claims
https://youtu.be/nHPUo8zubCA

also this is like 2 years old, let this die and get locked

[ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ]

Originally posted by Autism Creature Requiem:

Pressing S nor shooting the class that has to get up to your face to deal damage is a difficult concept to grasp for the average TF2 player

Yeah. All you have to do to make it harder for me to pepper you with damage and kill you with a finisher or melt you with a flamethrower is.. get out of close range! It’s that simple. Avoid tight corridors, stay away from enclosed spaces as much as possible, don’t act dumb! It’s simple. And if they cry wolf because they got out skilled by a combo, that’s even more stupid.

[Bob]

Pyro? Sniper is the most hated class.

[ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ]

Originally posted by Vror:

Airblast cringe mechanic

It actually takes quite a bit of effort to clutch reflects on most projectiles. You gotta make split second decisions that could cost you ya head! Yer just mad I can make your attacks hurt you instead lmao get screwed

[Bob]

Originally posted by ゴ 『Menacing Pyro』 ゴ:

Originally posted by Vror:

Airblast cringe mechanic

It actually takes quite a bit of effort to clutch reflects on most projectiles. You gotta make split second decisions that could cost you ya head! Yer just mad I can make your attacks hurt you instead lmao get screwed

It literally just pressing m2, if you have normal reaction time, you can easily airblast 80% of incoming projectile junk. Plus the cone is bigger than my ass (my ass is big). I can't tell if this bait or Serious.

[76561198088409502]

Originally posted by ゴ 『Menacing Pyro』 ゴ:

Originally posted by Vror:

Airblast cringe mechanic

It actually takes quite a bit of effort to clutch reflects on most projectiles. You gotta make split second decisions that could cost you ya head! Yer just mad I can make your attacks hurt you instead lmao get screwed

anyone can boot up dodgeball and play for an hour.
It's easy as ♥♥♥♥ to preform it and it's a easy way out of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[supersand]

Originally posted by ゴ 『Menacing Pyro』 ゴ:

Originally posted by Vror:

Airblast cringe mechanic

It actually takes quite a bit of effort to clutch reflects on most projectiles.

no it doesn't, I do random airblasts when engaging people as Pyro and it will reflect things I wasn't even aware of. The hitbox for it is incredibly large and has no lag with M1 unless you use the Dragon's Fury, it is way too forgiving and the ammo cost is nothing.

Edit: You can see how OP the airblast hitbox is here, its literally a huge cube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ0axNXvNik

[PyroFireGamer]

I don't hate him, I a Pyro Main and Pyro is my favorite Character.
also I do want to know why he's hated.

I mean what's the reason?
There's nothing wrong with him, if anything he's wholesome and friendly... when he's not angry or doing his job.

[Vlad the Impala]

Just going to add on to what has already been pointed out.

Afterburn is inconsistent and obnoxious by forcing to look for health even after taking chip damage where chip damage against any other class doesn't, and current afterburn mechanics makes it impossible to judge how long it's going to last after being in contact with flames. Not even mentioning how the heal-blocking and resistance piercing directly interfere with healing and are bugged to block by 80% rather than 20% as advertised and completely breaking when dispensers and vacc resists are in play.

Pyro is what you get when you design a class to be annoying rather than effective, is chock-full of stupid mechanics that don't even work properly half the time, and barely has any semblance of a skill ceiling.

[Mr.Mapache]

I feel you, pybro
Hudda huddah forever

[Dyspeptic Icarus]

Originally posted by ゴ 『Menacing Pyro』 ゴ:

I just don’t get it! Why do people give pyro so much unnecessary flack?! I can’t even hop into a game and get 1 kill without some needle-weenie nerd calling me a W+M1 noob. Even tho I rarely W+M1, and I’m really good with flares and combos. I can be really good on defense and offense, I’m a jack of all trades, master of none, BUT a master of none is better than a master of one like most soldiers and snipers are. I try my best to be good but I keep being labeled as a noob, hell, HEAVIES are a W+M1 pyro’s wet dream. Unless it’s a phlog pyro, heavies shred pyros like a hot knife through butter. I can’t do ♥♥♥♥ to most heavies unless I get the drop on them. Heavy has a way lower skill ceiling than pyro and pyro has a higher skill ceiling than perceived. Most people hate pyro because they’re bad and die to them way too much. I’m just good, but usually it’s the new install pyros getting crap, which really discourages them from playing the class they like. Why are we like this? We should hate some other class for a bit. We’ve gotten hated on since 2007! Jeebus!
Here’s a good vid to support my claims
https://youtu.be/nHPUo8zubCA

Because Pyro is a noobstomper, that noobs can play. Easiest Class, and does Moderate damage. While having a kit that can range from insanely OP to insanely mediocre.

A kit that ranges to easy to play to extreme skill needed for proper comboing.

But because you can mix and match half-kits, you easily learn the skill needed to play the harder kits. Other classes don't have this.

A Engineer can't go pure metal-shotgun-style, they need the wrench.
A demoman can't go half-demoknight. (easily)

Pyro can easily go pybro + phlog + sniper flare.

Pyro is the best class, but suffers from Jack of All Trades. Sadly, most other classes can't do jack and have to do specialist.

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W+M1 complainers are a whole other breed. More than half the classes do W+M1. It's a staple of FPSs. You move forward, and hold shoot. Heavy, Scout, and Demoman all do this too lmao.

The fact that all I have to do to get easy kills is walk forward, and aim in your general direction; that's on you. Not me, or the Pyro.

[Friendly Killer]

WM+1 pryo = food for my strange weapons. Easy to counter.

[Galaxander]

If we assume an overall low skill level between both pyro and victim, pyro has:
100% movespeed
175 health
No particular need to aim
bottomless clip
knock-on damage over time effect

[Galaxander]

Also sniper is far more hated, as has been said.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

You're exaggerating tho.

Im playing Pyro often and.. Nobody actually saying anything about it.
I can airblast,protect my Engineer teammates. Able to deal enough damage and such.
But nobody ever insulted me or any other Pyro player i see.

Rarely some players type w+m1 but thats generally a newbie heard w+m1 from someone with 5k hours but can't play the game.

[Cat_Soldier]

Pyro smells like motor oil