It's been almost 5 years (and 19 days) since Jungle Inferno, what do you think?

[Ember]

Do you think the next major update should revert all the major changes back? (Such as the baseball stun and Ambassador headshot with no damage falloff) Should the MyM update be reverted back to the original matchmaking system? Or be improved further for faster matchmaking and less queue time? (Competitive mode is a complete waste of time to queue up for)

Only god will tell what else is there in the future, but what do you believe is better?

[Graceful Jabberwocky]

Originally posted by Curious bnuuy, hopping through!:

Do you think the next major update should revert all the major changes back?

no

[Beep Boy]

Originally posted by Curious bnuuy, hopping through!:

Do you think the next major update should revert all the major changes back?

no

[Bob]

Why nobody ever mentions blue moon.

[Lord Oink]

I would jump for joy if they reverted JI's Pyro changes. They made him worse (in a fun sense) across the board, not only making the flamethrower somehow take even less skill to use, but made fire completely obstruct vision (yes this was the intent during TF2's original development but that doesn't mean it's any fun in practice), and made afterburn even more annoying by killing me faster.

[Ember]

Originally posted by Lord Oink:

I would jump for joy if they reverted JI's Pyro changes. They made him worse (in a fun sense) across the board, not only making the flamethrower somehow take even less skill to use, but made fire completely obstruct vision (yes this was the intent during TF2's original development but that doesn't mean it's any fun in practice), and made afterburn even more annoying by killing me faster.

I hated the Dragon's Fury because it took only 2 hits to kill any class easily (4-5 hits for Heavy if you exclude Overhealing)

But as time has passed, i've learned to counter these struggles such as only fighting the pyro when there's a med pack near me, or distancing further.

Also i believe Pyro can still be played with skills, such as Detonator use as a multitool (extra jump height, using it like scorch shot but with wider range, etc)

[GhastlyGhostJr]

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Why nobody ever mentions blue moon.

Because it was all the changes that were supposed to come with jungle inferno + fixing a few things jungle inferno badly messed up.

I don’t think people fully realize that pyro was so broken in between this time that he was out damaging demo and now the primary Uber target due to having the best dps + zero aim needed

[DaKittyKing]

I just want more silly weapons to use that are super impractical and no one uses but me

[Marteun]

no

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Why nobody ever mentions blue moon.

Because everyone who made threads like these joined within the last year or two and they don't actually know anything about what updates the game's received.

[Ember]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by Aimbob:

Why nobody ever mentions blue moon.

Because everyone who made threads like these joined within the last year or two and they don't actually know anything about what updates the game's received.

I have been playing since 2014, i already know about the blue moon, reason why i didn't mention it is because it wasn't relevant enough for me to bring it up, don't make stupid assumptions like this just because some people weren't given a quick rundown already.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Curious bnuuy, hopping through!:

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Because everyone who made threads like these joined within the last year or two and they don't actually know anything about what updates the game's received.

I have been playing since 2014, i already know about the blue moon, reason why i didn't mention it is because it wasn't relevant enough for me to bring it up, don't make stupid assumptions like this just because some people weren't given a quick rundown already.

so why do you bring up the even more irrelevant jungle inferno lmao

[Ember]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by Curious bnuuy, hopping through!:

I have been playing since 2014, i already know about the blue moon, reason why i didn't mention it is because it wasn't relevant enough for me to bring it up, don't make stupid assumptions like this just because some people weren't given a quick rundown already.

so why do you bring up the even more irrelevant jungle inferno lmao

Because the update brought out changes more impactful than the blue moon.

[CHIMKEN]

valve lazy and they like to take advantage of the community's love for the game by squeezing lots of money out of them

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Curious bnuuy, hopping through!:

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

so why do you bring up the even more irrelevant jungle inferno lmao

Because the update brought out changes more impactful than the blue moon.

it literally didn't lol. most of the ♥♥♥♥ that was "impactful" was changed with blue moon hahaha.

[calembredaine]

knowing valve's history, fixing pyro swiftly would have been miraculous even when their love for the video game was at its apex, so imagine when they were burnt out.

meanwhile pyro's rework was kept under the hood until release, letting some hype build up among the masses. with all this, you could already be concerned about the result.