The Crusader's Crossbow should heal disguised enemy spies

[Mcfighter2]

If all the other healing properties can heal enemy spies, why can't the crossbow? And don't say that the crossbow is meant to do damage; the crossbow is already powerful enough with ranged healing, and it doesn't have to do damage for everyone to still use it over the other syringe guns.

[Vror]

Because nerfing it to be useless against disguised enemies spies will change nothing about how good the weapon is, while also now making it way more unfun because the spy can just disguise himself and now he's immune to your weapon

Give it a real nerf

[Mcfighter2]

Originally posted by Vror:

Because nerfing it to be useless against disguised enemies spies will change nothing about how good the weapon is, while also now making it way more unfun because the spy can just disguise himself and now he's immune to your weapon

Give it a real nerf

Most of the time, your other teammates can deal with a disguised enemy spy, so I don't think being immune to the crossbow would be a big deal. It just means that the medic should be more wary of who they're healing, which is a good habit. If the medic's 11 other teammates can't spycheck, then they're just not good teammates.

[Kevin Crabcakes]

I will continue to believe damage should be super-nerfed or completely removed overall for the thing.
It would be an actual tradeoff to have your melee be your only form of self defense in return for long-ranged burst healing.
Medic should never be able to do the ridiculous amount of damage he does with the crossbow.

[Eighteen-Counts Trevor]

Spy needs a buff, so this is a good idea

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Originally posted by HowdyYall:

I will continue to believe damage should be super-nerfed or completely removed overall for the thing.
It would be an actual tradeoff to have your melee be your only form of self defense in return for long-ranged burst healing.
Medic should never be able to do the ridiculous amount of damage he does with the crossbow.

Oh come on i thought you were a good player. If you keep getting shoot by blind arrows you're worse than i think.


Anyways,i think you never did meet with Team Fortress Classic medic.
He would destroy any enemy.

[grape cough syrup]

Originally posted by HowdyYall:

Medic should never be able to do the ridiculous amount of damage he does with the crossbow.

That's where you're wrong champ.

[Kevin Crabcakes]

Originally posted by Walter Clements:

Spy needs a buff, so this is a good idea

Spy can be buffed by reverting the game back to before hats were a thing, and erasing all competent player's minds. The class ages over time like a carton of milk, unlike the cheeses and wines that make up the rest of the game.
There is no way I can think of to significantly buff Spy without making him an annoying prick.

[Mcfighter2]

Originally posted by HowdyYall:

Spy can be buffed by reverting the game back to before hats were a thing, and erasing all competent player's minds. The class ages over time like a carton of milk, unlike the cheeses and wines that make up the rest of the game.
There is no way I can think of to significantly buff Spy without making him an annoying prick.

The only buffs I'd give the spy would not even be direct buffs. It would be dozens upon dozens of little bug fixes, the bugs of which harm the spy, and the aforementioned crossbow healing enemy spies.

[Kevin Crabcakes]

Originally posted by Obedear:

Originally posted by HowdyYall:

Medic should never be able to do the ridiculous amount of damage he does with the crossbow.

That's where you're wrong champ.

sut up obder

[WE are in the beam.]

Originally posted by Emotional Backup Toad:

And don't say that the crossbow is meant to do damage; the crossbow is already powerful enough with ranged healing, and it doesn't have to do damage for everyone to still use it over the other syringe guns.

Thats why CC needs a full rework instead of nerfing or turning other siringe guns into powercreep.

[Vror]

Originally posted by Lady Dimitrescu:

Originally posted by HowdyYall:

I will continue to believe damage should be super-nerfed or completely removed overall for the thing.
It would be an actual tradeoff to have your melee be your only form of self defense in return for long-ranged burst healing.
Medic should never be able to do the ridiculous amount of damage he does with the crossbow.

Oh come on i thought you were a good player. If you keep getting shoot by blind arrows you're worse than i think.


Anyways,i think you never did meet with Team Fortress Classic medic.
He would destroy any enemy.

Why do people like you always assume it's a "skill issue" when you're the one in denial of accepting the fact that crossbow is OP

You don't need to die to it to understand it's OP

[Vror]

Originally posted by WE are in the beam_:

Originally posted by Emotional Backup Toad:

And don't say that the crossbow is meant to do damage; the crossbow is already powerful enough with ranged healing, and it doesn't have to do damage for everyone to still use it over the other syringe guns.

Thats why CC needs a full rework instead of nerfing or turning other siringe guns into powercreep.

I would do both nerfing CC and syringe buff honestly

a rework would make people mad and cry about how medic isn't "skill based" anymore

[Vror]

Originally posted by Emotional Backup Toad:

Originally posted by Vror:

Because nerfing it to be useless against disguised enemies spies will change nothing about how good the weapon is,

so I don't think being immune to the crossbow would be a big deal.

I literally said that, did you just ignore it? lol

[Mcfighter2]

Originally posted by Vror:

Originally posted by Emotional Backup Toad:

so I don't think being immune to the crossbow would be a big deal.

I literally said that, did you just ignore it? lol

I meant to say that in response to

Originally posted by Vror:

while also now making it way more unfun because the spy can just disguise himself and now he's immune to your weapon

Not the first part of your post, sorry.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Originally posted by Vror:

Originally posted by Lady Dimitrescu:

Oh come on i thought you were a good player. If you keep getting shoot by blind arrows you're worse than i think.


Anyways,i think you never did meet with Team Fortress Classic medic.
He would destroy any enemy.

Why do people like you always assume it's a "skill issue" when you're the one in denial of accepting the fact that crossbow is OP

You don't need to die to it to understand it's OP

Vror please dont start it.

Litereally slow moving projectiles you cant get shot by them.
If you're bad enough to get shot by a crossbow bolt. Litereally every demoman and Soldier can kill you across the map. Or any pyro with bad aim.

Litereally.