Team Fortress 2
Harry Pioter Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:11am
Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol - is this direct upgrade to stock pistol ?
My question is: Is PBPP the best choice for secondary weapon for Scout ?
After Jungle Inferno weapon balance changes, this weapon is extremly better than stock pistol.

Stats:
+15% firing speed
Up to +7 hp per hit
-25% clip size (9 shots)

The only one downside is that this weapon have 9 max ammo in magazine instead 12, but is this noticeable if this weapon shots 15% faster ?

Other weapon in game that is direct upgrade to stock is 3rd degree, but it's pretty situational and is rerely used.

So what are your thoughts ?
Is this new best secondary for scout ?


[ Sorry for bad English ]
Last edited by Harry Pioter; Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:12am
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Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:13am 
I think it is, and it deserves some kind of a nerf tbh
Bock Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:13am 
Depends on the situation.

I find the stock pistol better at finishing of my enemy(more shots) & the pocket pistol better as a no medic/healthpack around type of gun.
Testing Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:14am 
Short answer is yes. They need to nerf either damage, reload speed, or both.
May Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:18am 
if you use it with the bfb you can regen all your health (assuming that you can hit every shot) and not be hit when you start running with the max speed
Harry Pioter Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by HyperPote:
Short answer is yes. They need to nerf either damage, reload speed, or both.
Yeah, seems like damage nerf is the best option
Pootis17 Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Fenomeno:
Originally posted by HyperPote:
Short answer is yes. They need to nerf either damage, reload speed, or both.
Yeah, seems like damage nerf is the best option
but buff clip
Harry Pioter Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Engi Benjy:
Depends on the situation.

I find the stock pistol better at finishing of my enemy(more shots) & the pocket pistol better as a no medic/healthpack around type of gun.
Yeah stock have more shots, but PBPP shots faster, and you also gain health.
SquibTheAD (Banned) Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:21am 
They should nerf it slightly maybe make it have a longer switch speed I don't know.
Bock Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Fenomeno:
Originally posted by Engi Benjy:
Depends on the situation.

I find the stock pistol better at finishing of my enemy(more shots) & the pocket pistol better as a no medic/healthpack around type of gun.
Yeah stock have more shots, but PBPP shots faster, and you also gain health.
True.
Kitt 🌟 Stargazer Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:26am 
If you can land the shots it deals a lot of damage out really really quickly. The health on hit makes it easy to heckle heavies to death. It's pretty efficent at knocking out sentries as well..

I feel it definitely needs to be toned down at least a bit... Was thinking slower reload and maybe health on hit is effected by distance from the target perhaps.

I'm waiting for some more feedback though from higher end players though to see if this still holds true with them. You know, the people that generally matter when it comes to balancing for the best level of feedback typically.
Advantage of stock more shots

Advantage of pbpp - free health and faster firing speed

Advantage of the winger - jump height and a little extra damage per shot
Last edited by Ross the shucklenite; Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:28am
LeoKilo Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:28am 
maybe health on hit scales with distance?
Harry Pioter Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by LeoKilo:
maybe health on hit scales with distance?
Good idea, or scales with player health
-20% damage
And
Takes 40% longer to switch ?
Last edited by Ross the shucklenite; Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:30am
Harry Pioter Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Ross the shucknite:
-20% damage
And
Takes 40% longer to switch ?
I think dmg nerf is correct here. This weapon should be used not for killing but for healing.
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Date Posted: Nov 19, 2017 @ 11:11am
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