the market gardener is overpowered and needs to be changed

[Melon <3]

the market gardener is super strong, instead of opting to safely bomb someone with your rockets, you instead decide to take a risk and pull out a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shovel with a chance to kill most classes in one kill,
it's super OP to have a weapon which requires you to take a massive risk of failing to land a garden in chances of being able to oneshot a lot of classes, like we will just ignore the fact that landing gardens are kinda difficult to pull of since people can kinda just run away, and will just shoot you in the face when you fail to land that garden when you could just have safely bombed that person with your remaining rockets.

that's why I think the market gardener needs to be changed

the current stats are as follows:
+Deals crits while the wielder is rocket jumping
-20% slower firing speed
-No random critical hits

it should be changed to the following instead
+200% faster firing speed
+20000 max health on wearer
+70000% damage bonus
+400% health from packs on wearer
+No self inflicted blast damage taken
+increased range
+On Hit: Bleed for 1000 seconds
+user can not be knocked back by any source
+gain ubercharge for holding the weapon
+50% faster move speed on wearer
+2500 health restored on kill
+On Hit: One target at a time is Marked-For-Death, causing all damage taken to be mini-crits
+100 capture rate on wearer
+When hitting a person, steals all of their tf2 items while also giving you a free unusual

-No random critical hits
-Knowledge that Valve won't release heavy update :c

[Cat_Soldier]

I agree

[♥Peachboy♥]

ok

[jeppy (she/her)]

I thought this was going to be a genuine rant on the market gardener being OP, and prepared a counter-rant, only to be happily surprised.

[Uscari]

Originally posted by rub onto anus until cry:

I thought this was going to be a genuine rant on the market gardener being OP, and prepared a counter-rant, only to be happily surprised.

Real talk though, market gardner is OP, just like most melee unlocks.

How is it fair to give soldier a free double damage rocket in his pocket at no cost?

Also for the all the talk about "engagement" and "deathmatching" there's absolutely nothing engaging about a guy jumping at you and 1-shotting you.

If the market gardner has to exist, there should at least be a reasonable downside, 20% firing speed and random crits is literally nothing.

[Cat_Soldier]

Originally posted by Uscari:

Originally posted by rub onto anus until cry:

I thought this was going to be a genuine rant on the market gardener being OP, and prepared a counter-rant, only to be happily surprised.

Real talk though, market gardner is OP, just like most melee unlocks.

How is it fair to give soldier a free double damage rocket in his pocket at no cost?

Also for the all the talk about "engagement" and "deathmatching" there's absolutely nothing engaging about a guy jumping at you and 1-shotting you.

If the market gardner has to exist, there should at least be a reasonable downside, 20% firing speed and random crits is literally nothing.

If you want give it a -5 health so market soldiers can garden others, but I prefer the changes proposed by OP

[coolthingsbecool]

Soundsmith would like to know your location

the meme spoon is fine as is, git gud B)

[Goku]

We need a market gardener reskin that’s just a comically large spoon

[gianni]

It’s a direct upgrade but so are most other melees

[Cat_Soldier]

Originally posted by Pursue me, I dare you:

We need a market gardener reskin that’s just a comically large spoon

https://gamebanana.com/mods/204538

[Gugamineyt13]

T_T

[caconoat]

Originally posted by Uscari:

Real talk though, market gardner is OP, just like most melee unlocks.

How is it fair to give soldier a free double damage rocket in his pocket at no cost?

i fail to understand how a clumsy melee swing is "free" even if we assume perfect execution on these

[Hell-met]

dumb thread

but surprisingly has a pinch of truth

[Roboloke04]

funny spoon buff

now laugh

Originally posted by Uscari:

Real talk though, market gardner is OP, just like most melee unlocks.

How is it fair to give soldier a free double damage rocket in his pocket at no cost?

Hitting someone with your melee while rocket jumping is incredibly risky. You WILL achieve most likely the same results by simply bombing with your rockets instead of whipping out your melee.

You could be running the escape plan, but choosing a inherently unreliable and niche tech option (which mind you most of the time necessitates you dedicating your loadout to it in order to be a genuine threat).

Its a joke weapon, you actively have to dedicate your loadout to it for it to be effective, and running it along with anything else only makes it a downgrade from stock, while also removing the option for the amazing utility that is the escape plan.

[El Rubio]

I prefer the whip. I like helping my teammates rather than getting a sick frag kill I could’ve gotten by bombing the enemy

[Chocoroom]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is that the real Melon? no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ way ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ man its the real melon.