Is heavy the worst class in tf2, how do we fix that.

[Itz_Saxo]

I wanting to bring up this since I heard spy is the worst or how pyro is the weakest class, but not really an lot on heavy weapon pootis man himself.

[VeeTHis]

Let me fix your typos for you:

Sniper is the worst class in tf2, how do we fix that.

There's many ways to fix Sniper's extremely un-fun OPness:

• Remove all sniper rifles

OR

• Remove Sniper from the game

See? Both very easy solutions for Valve to implement!

[UNCLEWOKIAN DANEBOT MIND-VIRUS]

Publicado originalmente por VeeTHis:

Let me fix your typos for you:

Sniper is the worst class in tf2, how do we fix that.

There's many ways to fix Sniper's extremely un-fun OPness:

• Remove all sniper rifles

OR

• Remove Sniper from the game

See? Both very easy solutions for Valve to implement!

A good Heavy update alone would be entirely fulfilled by nerfing Sniper directly.

[Spartykins]

Publicado originalmente por Hell-met:

hes not

heavy being bad is from a very old stigma when people refused to admit hes sexually bound to medic permanently

the worst class in tf2 is pyro

mostly this, trying to play heavy without a med is asking for trouble

[Mr.Bullshitter]

Publicado originalmente por VeeTHis:

Let me fix your typos for you:

Sniper is the worst class in tf2, how do we fix that.

There's many ways to fix Sniper's extremely un-fun OPness:

• Remove all sniper rifles

OR

• Remove Sniper from the game

See? Both very easy solutions for Valve to implement!

Diffrence between worst and OP,you are saying that Snoipah is so weak that he should be removed so that it will make no diffrence to the core balancing.

[Cee]

Not directed at op but in general:

People who mix "bad" with boring when talking about heavy are the same people who mix "bad" with boring when talking about medic

[calembredaine]

Publicado originalmente por medic mains are property:

Publicado originalmente por calembredaine:

there are people who do; that's all your question needed as an answer afaik.
and this time idk why you drop some "lul don't play him" as if anyone needed advices from you. unless that was the underlying point? :v

It's just simple. Don't play a class if you clearly don't enjoy it.
I for one think Heavy is fun to play as.
But the question was moreso aimed at people who go "Heavy is boring" and then follow up as if it's some kind of objective truth, which it's not at all.

oh, you player.

Publicado originalmente por sure thing:

heavy is a binary class to play but he's not bad and not totally horrible to fight

idk about the opponent part
with other classes it's either feeling alright or at least i see some room for more engaging interactions in the core design.
i've failed to see it either way for pootis, and i still can't imagine interactions with him i wouldn't call barely mediocre.

Publicado originalmente por Sims Legit:

Not directed at op but in general:

People who mix "bad" with boring when talking about heavy are the same people who mix "bad" with boring when talking about medic

i doubt that should be called mixing. "bad" are legit for both power level and "fun factor" afaik.
thing is that since it works for both without drawing even basic details, that leads to this sort of confusion.

[Cee]

Publicado originalmente por calembredaine:

Publicado originalmente por medic mains are property:

It's just simple. Don't play a class if you clearly don't enjoy it.
I for one think Heavy is fun to play as.
But the question was moreso aimed at people who go "Heavy is boring" and then follow up as if it's some kind of objective truth, which it's not at all.

oh, you player.

Publicado originalmente por sure thing:

heavy is a binary class to play but he's not bad and not totally horrible to fight

idk about the opponent part
with other classes it's either feeling alright or at least i see some room for more engaging interactions in the core design.
i've failed to see it either way for pootis, and i still can't imagine interactions with him i wouldn't call barely mediocre.

Publicado originalmente por Sims Legit:

Not directed at op but in general:

People who mix "bad" with boring when talking about heavy are the same people who mix "bad" with boring when talking about medic

i doubt that should be called mixing. "bad" are legit for both power level and "fun factor" afaik.
thing is that since it works for both without drawing even basic details, that leads to this sort of confusion.

i have, in 6 years of tf2, never heard someone equaling a boring playstyle to being ineffective.

[76561198161596995]

Publicado originalmente por Sims Legit:

Publicado originalmente por calembredaine:

oh, you player.


idk about the opponent part
with other classes it's either feeling alright or at least i see some room for more engaging interactions in the core design.
i've failed to see it either way for pootis, and i still can't imagine interactions with him i wouldn't call barely mediocre.


i doubt that should be called mixing. "bad" are legit for both power level and "fun factor" afaik.
thing is that since it works for both without drawing even basic details, that leads to this sort of confusion.

i have, in 6 years of tf2, never heard someone equaling a boring playstyle to being ineffective.

you obviously do not listen to discussions about heavy then

[Cee]

Publicado originalmente por sure thing:

Publicado originalmente por Sims Legit:

i have, in 6 years of tf2, never heard someone equaling a boring playstyle to being ineffective.

you obviously do not listen to discussions about heavy then

well, talking about a boring class is indeed boring

[calembredaine]

point isn't about some straightforward "boring = ineffective"
it's just that bad can actually be used for both, but it's then ultra easy to get what the other says wrong.