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BernieSanders possui Team Fortress 2

13/mai./2018 às 15:15

PYROS ARE KILLING THE GAME

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Escrito originalmente por Biggus Dickus:

Escrito originalmente por ZLACHIE123:
Escrito originalmente por ุ:
Pyro is unfair and unbalanced. There's nothing more completely true.

He can kill an overhealed heavy in SECONDS with ANY flamethrower including the backburner, even if he's not attacking your back.

He has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane primary damage, when he should be about afterburn, airblast and weapon combination.

Lots of primary damage is Heavy's health.

Meanwhile pyro can damage multiple players at once, airblast, do afterburn, get random crits on his primary, get back crits from a primary, get earned crits from a primary, as well as a secondary and melee.

He's complete utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and a disgusting abomination on Valve's part.
Yeah let’s nerf the already weak class
As far as I know the only time I killed an overhealed heavy is if the heavy is bad. Dps is weak at best

you do have to admit
pyro can be played well by pretty much everyone
he is a really gimicky class with all his crit weapons
i think valve should be more creative with him
and make him play more like a scout, repetitive and all about finishing of the people that the power classess (solider, heavy, demoman) did not kill
or ripping up the enemy frontline so the power classess can do some serios dps (damage per second)
pyro should never be considerd a power class (he is a backup class with scout and thats where he should stay)
and noway he should have as many crit weapons as he already has
and jungle inferno made it worse
now pyro can acess almost anywhere he has extra range and extra dps
i dont mind the gass passer though (that weapon was fair)

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KoЯn

17/mai./2018 às 21:03

Oh no, the class with no real role in a team constantly kills me cause I over extend or don't pay attention!

#166

Казак

17/mai./2018 às 22:11

1 no you said jump and rocket jump
Pyros reserve shooter mini crits rocket jumping soldiers and demos, and airblasting a jumping scout or just shooting him makes him effective, and a good anti soldier as well
Shot gun does 10 dmg less then the scatter gun and uh, what are you saying? Are you proving my point that pyro uses the shotgun to kill scouts?
And you said “have you heard of shooting” so yeah, that’s remotely similar to saying pyros can’t aim
Spy sucks for anything except easy stabs, any competent team will shut him down, only thing he’s semi good for is taking down sentries sniper can’t see, even then corner peeking as soldier will allow you to take them out.

#167

Казак

17/mai./2018 às 22:13

But ffs would the elitists stop calling people branlets for playing a class?

"Everyone who disagrees with me is an elitist who doesn't allow me to play my favourite class"

By all means, play pyro if that is what you want. No one here is stopping you, it doesn't mean that pyro isn't factually a trash class with little purpose and no significant skill ceiling.

Oh hey strawman fallacy, I was referring to the dude calling me a branlet, not you, I ain’t no sjw.

Última edição por Казак; 17/mai./2018 às 22:14

#168

Loving Wound possui Team Fortress 2

17/mai./2018 às 22:22

Escrito originalmente por ZLACHIE123:
Shotgun does 10 dmg less then the scatter gun

The scattergun does 15 more damage than the shotgun. While that doesn't sound like a big different. It really is a big deal. The extra 15 damage allows a Scout to two shot 8 out of the 9 classes due to it being able to do a max of 210 damage from two shots. The extra 5 damage isn't a lot because even if it was removed a Scout would still be able to two shot 8 of the 9 classes.

Última edição por Loving Wound; 17/mai./2018 às 22:23

#169

Казак

17/mai./2018 às 22:35

Escrito originalmente por Just Monika with a fire fetish:
Escrito originalmente por ZLACHIE123:
Shotgun does 10 dmg less then the scatter gun
The scattergun does 15 more damage than the shotgun. While that doesn't sound like a big different. It really is a big deal. The extra 15 damage allows a Scout to two shot 8 out of the 9 classes due to it being able to do a max of 210 damage from two shots. The extra 5 damage isn't a lot because even if it was removed a Scout would still be able to two shot 8 of the 9 classes.

So a pyro can reflect rockets, and mini crit a r jumping soldier, damn Volvo hates soldiers

#170

Loving Wound possui Team Fortress 2

17/mai./2018 às 22:51

Escrito originalmente por ZLACHIE123:
Escrito originalmente por Just Monika with a fire fetish:
The scattergun does 15 more damage than the shotgun. While that doesn't sound like a big different. It really is a big deal. The extra 15 damage allows a Scout to two shot 8 out of the 9 classes due to it being able to do a max of 210 damage from two shots. The extra 5 damage isn't a lot because even if it was removed a Scout would still be able to two shot 8 of the 9 classes.
So a pyro can reflect rockets, and mini crit a r jumping soldier, damn Volvo hates soldiers

That's against one class and the reserve shooter is generally worse than the shotgun.

You think that's bad look at Pyro. Pyro is terrible against or has a disadvantage against 5 classes(Scout, Engineer, Demoman, Heavy, and Sniper) and is only is strong or has advantage against 2 classes(Soldier and Spy). Pyro has lack luster mobiliy, survibility, utility, damage, and range.

Última edição por Loving Wound; 17/mai./2018 às 23:03

#171

Казак

18/mai./2018 às 8:13

Escrito originalmente por Muskovy:
Pyro isnt killing the game, hes just a class for brainlets

I mean I get there’s a lot of ♥♥♥♥ but it’s not that hard to scroll for five seconds

Escrito originalmente por Staplerfahrer Klaus:
Escrito originalmente por ZLACHIE123:
1 no you said jump and rocket jump
The hell? I can't tell where you're going with this if you don't at least quote the post you reply to. Without context this makes no sense.
Pyros reserve shooter mini crits rocket jumping soldiers and demos, and airblasting a jumping scout or just shooting him makes him effective, and a good anti soldier as well
Thought you were going on about reflects when it came to minicrits, but still, this is off tangent about how pyro deals with an intel-carrying scout compared to a soldier. Reserve shooter is significantly more effective when equipped by soldier, anyway, and a soldier doesn't need to rocket jump at pyros to begin with. You'll certainly irritate jumpers with it, but it doesn't address pyro's shortcomings with crap range and crap mobility.
Shot gun does 10 dmg less then the scatter gun and uh, what are you saying? Are you proving my point that pyro uses the shotgun to kill scouts?
Shotgun on a much less mobile class that is far less able to avoid damage. That extra 15 damage actually makes a difference in terms of shots to kill, a 175hp class needs two perfect meatshots with shotgun while you can afford to beef a second shot slightly with scattergun.

And you said “have you heard of shooting” so yeah, that’s remotely similar to saying pyros can’t aim
Here's the context of my statement. It had absolutely nothing to do with with pyros being unable to aim.

Spy sucks for anything except easy stabs, any competent team will shut him down, only thing he’s semi good for is taking down sentries sniper can’t see, even then corner peeking as soldier will allow you to take them out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZbd6_txsSQ
Froyotech has consistently been the among the best 6s teams in TF2, and Starkie pulled off spy picks multiple times on them. A sniper on the last point would have had lots of difficulty pulling off even one pick on that part of the map whereas a spy taking advantage of an ideal circumstance could. Either you can say that froyo isn't a competent team (lol) or spy can pull off picks in places where sniper has poor sightlines.

Like I said in my first post, a good spy(not a legendary spy) still has trouble with getting a few stabs and surviving.

Escrito originalmente por ZLACHIE123:

Oh hey strawman fallacy, I was referring to the dude calling me a branlet, not you, I ain’t no sjw.

A strawman fallacy would mean that I fabricated an argument of yours to break down. Since you actually did say:

Escrito originalmente por ZLACHIE123:
But ffs would the elitists stop calling people branlets for playing a class?

there is no strawman.
Besides, I searched the thread for "branlet" and I didn't see anyone else mention it at all:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/search/?gidtopic=2828702373005441085&q=branlet [/quote]
Yeah, you fabricated my argument as anyone who discussed the class as bad is an elitist. And like i said In the first part of this post.m, you literally had to go back two pages it’s not that difficult. Sorry if I screwed up the quotes, I’m new to discussions.

Última edição por Казак; 18/mai./2018 às 8:15

#172

APOCALYPSE possui Team Fortress 2

18/mai./2018 às 9:12

This ♥♥♥♥ post still alive. LMAO Btw you guys are dumb. Stop pretending like you know ♥♥♥♥ about the game. Looks silly.

#173

Soggy

18/mai./2018 às 9:23

Escrito originalmente por Pybrony:
This ♥♥♥♥ post still alive. LMAO Btw you guys are dumb. Stop pretending like you know ♥♥♥♥ about the game. Looks silly.

"Durr hurr stop having discussions in the discussion forums retarfs XDDDDD"

#174

Flavor

18/mai./2018 às 9:32

Escrito originalmente por Pybrony:
This ♥♥♥♥ post still alive. LMAO Btw you guys are dumb. Stop pretending like you know ♥♥♥♥ about the game. Looks silly.

wow you sure showed us

how can I ever carry on life knowing that steam user Pybrony thinks I’m dumb

#175