Idea: forcing steam authenticator in order to play tf2

[Tronex]

I was thinking about an easy solution to reduce cheaters waves without harming the tf2 community much.
As you know the main problem here is that tf2 is free. anyone can create an account in minutes & play right away, including cheaters.
Got a VAC? no problemo amigo just create a new account in no time.

Forcing steam guard mobile authentiocator as a required step to play sounds like a decent solution imho.

Pros:

- Once a person gets banned, all his associated alts will get banned as well (huge hit for bots)
- The banned phone number can no longer be used to play tf2, this will get rid of the cheaters for a long time before they change/get new phone number.
- Nobody will suffer from 15 days hold on trades anymore since everybody now is using steam app.

Cons:

- Some kids don't have phone number + android/iOS (> 2017 lol), they can't play tf2 anymore (its still possible with this[github.com] but you still need a phone number).
- TF2 popularity & player base could get affected a bit.

Thoughts?

[poob]

Cloud님이 먼저 게시:

I mean. The cheaters would just use the desktop notif. -.

*Mobile authenticator
*Prevents bots

[burlap sack]

I like the idea.

[76561198412645025]

Tronex님이 먼저 게시:

Check out the forums daily to take an idea about the amount of cheaters & bots we face in casual.

Grossly exagerated minority only exacerbated by a vocal minority in this community complaining and crying bot/cheater/hacker.

[shadow realm]

ahahahahahahahaha

no

they would never do that, also steam authenticator is a thing in csgo, and cheaters are still there.

Valve forcing players to use authenticator would reduce the playerbase and their income, which is stupid, also many people would dislike that change.

If you dislike F2Ps, unistall the game.

If you encounter a hacker, try to votekick him or simply leave the match.

Tronex님이 먼저 게시:

Pros:

- Once a person gets banned, all his associated alts will get banned as well (huge hit for bots)
- The banned phone number can no longer be used to play tf2, this will get rid of the cheaters for a long time before they change/get new phone number.
- Nobody will suffer from 15 days hold on trades anymore since everybody now is using steam app.

Thoughts?

1. Hackers will bypass that (yes it could get us rid of bots, but hackers would still be a thing)
2. Same as 1, take a look at csgo.
3. Or just get a phone and don't get trade hold anymore?


TL:DR : It would be a pretty stupid move for Valve, the game is as good as it is, they don't need to make it worse. That change would be a downgrade of TF2.

[76561198412645025]

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Cloud님이 먼저 게시:

I mean. The cheaters would just use the desktop notif. -.

*Mobile authenticator
*Prevents bots

Lmao the authenticator can be automated.

[76561198412645025]

FFelixD님이 먼저 게시:

Valve forcing players to use authenticator would reduce the playerbase and their income, which is stupid, also many people would dislike that change.

If you dislike F2Ps, unistall the game.

If you encounter a hacker, try to votekick him or simply leave the match.

Essentially this^

[Reiddonith]

00000님이 먼저 게시:

Tronex님이 먼저 게시:

Check out the forums daily to take an idea about the amount of cheaters & bots we face in casual.

Grossly exagerated minority only exacerbated by a vocal minority in this community complaining and crying bot/cheater/hacker.

Have you not played this game?

[76561198412645025]

Reiddonith님이 먼저 게시:

00000님이 먼저 게시:

Grossly exagerated minority only exacerbated by a vocal minority in this community complaining and crying bot/cheater/hacker.

Have you not played this game?

Yes otherwise I would be locked from this forum.

00000님이 먼저 게시:

Grossly exagerated minority only exacerbated by a vocal minority in this community complaining and crying bot/cheater/hacker.

Also think about my previous post.

[poob]

00000님이 먼저 게시:

You kids are hilarious with your assumptions.
Maybe it’s you who should remove yourself from steam.

Not everyone is willing to hand over their phone to a corporation for this "authenticator" bullcrap.

There will be some kind of exploit to get around this or if this gets implemented then Valve/Steam/the community who suggested the idea is encouraging others to steal phone numbers and phones for the authenticator.

That will never fall on your conscience for suggesting such ♥♥♥♥ that harms a consumer and risk accounts getting breached when others steal phones and accounts.

As long as its not YOUR account then its not YOUR problem.

Mobile authenticator is a necessity when it comes to trading, which many people including TF2 do. There are scammers out there, but mobile authenticator helped eradicate hijackers as well as checking possible scams. Cheaters won't breach accounts, the same way scammers and trolls don't breach accounts.

Also:
-Private profile
-Bot username
-stock profile pic

[poob]

00000님이 먼저 게시:

Ochaco Uraraka님이 먼저 게시:

Everyone has a phone now. It isnt a bad idea either. The people that want to get the game will actually try to get the game, therefore downloading the authenticator.

narrowminded ♥♥♥♥

Ooh, not nice first impression there buddy. Did you burn your toast and spill your coffee?

[76561198412645025]

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Mobile authenticator is a necessity when it comes to trading, which many people including TF2 do.

My authenticator confirmations are glitches up so I can't trade and it’s still not fixed.
Not everyone in the community trades.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

There are scammers out there, but mobile authenticator helped eradicate hijackers as well as checking possible scams.

There are idiots still out there that get scammed anyway with authenticator.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Cheaters won't breach accounts, the same way scammers and trolls don't breach accounts.

You're a narrow-minded ass to think they would abide by TOS and not find exploits or use external programs to get into accounts. You've never seen it for yourself so you think none of that exists?

Either way you're naive to think they won't breach accounts.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Also:
-Private profile
-Bot username
-stock profile pic

Meaningless.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

00000님이 먼저 게시:

narrowminded ♥♥♥♥

Ooh, not nice first impression there buddy. Did you burn your toast and spill your coffee?

If you want to ""roast"" me edit your first reply instead of making a seperate post.

[poob]

00000님이 먼저 게시:

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Mobile authenticator is a necessity when it comes to trading, which many people including TF2 do.

My authenticator confirmations are glitches up so I can't trade and it’s still not fixed.
Not everyone in the community trades.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

There are scammers out there, but mobile authenticator helped eradicate hijackers as well as checking possible scams.

There are idiots still out there that get scammed anyway with authenticator.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Cheaters won't breach accounts, the same way scammers and trolls don't breach accounts.

You're a narrow-minded ass to think they would abide by TOS and not find exploits or use external programs to get into accounts. You've never seen it for yourself so you think none of that exists?

Either way you're naive to think they won't breach accounts.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Also:
-Private profile
-Bot username
-stock profile pic

Meaningless.

PhilipDadaug님이 먼저 게시:

Ooh, not nice first impression there buddy. Did you burn your toast and spill your coffee?

If you want to ""roast"" me edit your first reply instead of making a seperate post.

- Authentixator problem is probably a you problem. I have never experienced errors.

- Mainly talking about hijackers

- I know hijackers exist, but it is extremely rare to find one in the first place, with or without mobile authenticator. Mobile authenticator is in almost every Steam user's account, so it would already be a problem according to you.

- Your account determines how people percieve you. You have a stock profile pic, a private account, and a random name. In servers, this is the typical cheater format. Even if you are not, people will still assume you are a cheater yourself.

- First thing I see you say is "narrow-minded ♥♥♥♥" with no particular reason, except my "narrow minded" opinions. No one starts off a post with insulting someone like that, unless they are pissed off at something. If you are pissed about an opinion on the internet, you have a problem.

[Tronex]

00000님이 먼저 게시:

You kids are hilarious with your assumptions.
Maybe it’s you who should remove yourself from steam.

Not everyone is willing to hand over their phone to a corporation for this "authenticator" bullcrap.

"Oh noh! valve is gonna get my personal info :("

There will be some kind of exploit to get around this or if this gets implemented then Valve/Steam/the community who suggested the idea is encouraging others to steal phone numbers and phones for the authenticator.

So let me get this:
First, you're a future predictor? and you know that there would be an exploit to get around it?
Second, people gonna steal phones for steam accounts?
Here's the issue: people on steam barely know each others, its a huge sea of strangers from all over the places. how someone will target you again?
And people who steal phones are doing it for the phone's price itself, not for your worthless steam account.
Besides if your phone got stolen, you can lock your account by contacting steam support since you the username/password/recovery code.

that will never fall on your conscience for suggesting such ♥♥♥♥ that harms a consumer and risk accounts getting breached when others steal phones and accounts.

No because your concerns are stupid in the first place, get real before talking.

[poob]

Now, for your hourly flame war meme break!

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[Stellar Fox]

i don't see how it hurts the game in any way. reduces cheaters by 90% doing a better job than VAC. if you say less people are gonna play it's just gonna be a bunch of 8 year olds that can't use mommy's phone, no big deal.