VNN Wants to Scare the Community for Profit

[chromosome kenobi]

This has <NOTHING> to do with the leaks!

Lets face it, the past months, VNN has had a lot of negative things to say about TF2. He fails to separate speculation from news and he has quite the negativity bias. One of the few things that he shares which is positive is always creators.tf. "Oh, TF2 is dying because Valve sucks, but creators.tf!" He's using the community to generate ad revenue and he even has a patreon for people to donate to creators.tf.

As far as I'm aware, Tyler has completely failed to name any campaigns other than creators.tf. If Tyler has suggested any other campaigns, please fill me in on which post.

[chromosome kenobi]

Originally posted by SomeBitTripFan:

Originally posted by chromosome kenobi:

"Just don't listen to VNN, let him do whatever he wants."
"Yeah bro, just don't listen to the antivaxxers, but let them do whatever they want."

You know what you do with anti-vaxxers. You explain to them and to the public what they're wrong about. You can do that with VNN if you want, but you're going to still contribute to channel traffic. And I happen to think that someone speculating about what a company is doing and actively denying facts in a way that allows for the spread of deadly diseases are a little bit different. Work on being able to think.

It was an exaggeration and comparing a similar aspect of two different circumstances. You should "Work on being able to think."

[SomeBitTripFan]

Originally posted by chromosome kenobi:

Originally posted by SomeBitTripFan:

You know what you do with anti-vaxxers. You explain to them and to the public what they're wrong about. You can do that with VNN if you want, but you're going to still contribute to channel traffic. And I happen to think that someone speculating about what a company is doing and actively denying facts in a way that allows for the spread of deadly diseases are a little bit different. Work on being able to think.

It was an exaggeration and comparing a similar aspect of two different circumstances. You should "Work on being able to think."

Well, context is important. Ignoring a Youtube channel does hurt it if you've been watching his videos and commenting on them. They get higher priority in the algorithm. If you want to expose him as a fraud, do the research, make a video, try to spread it and take him down. That happens to be what people do with anti-vaxxers. I don't think you're going to find dirt on him, so the best you can do is not assist in the growth of his channel and the best way to do that is to not contribute to the channel. Work on being able to think enough to come up with your own insult.

Also:
"I lied about Valve porting TF2 to Source 2."
"I lied about not committing war crimes."

Lying is bad. Exaggerating to make a point.

[IT'S A BIRDMAN]

Originally posted by NickAintHere:

VNN is full of bull$hit

[naii.neocities.org]

Originally posted by 🎮 sylven:

Originally posted by NickAintHere:

VNN is full of bull$hit

nice private profile gamer

[IT'S A BIRDMAN]

Originally posted by Ivan:

Originally posted by 🎮 sylven:

nice private profile gamer

yeah check now

[chromosome kenobi]

Originally posted by SomeBitTripFan:

Originally posted by chromosome kenobi:

It was an exaggeration and comparing a similar aspect of two different circumstances. You should "Work on being able to think."

Well, context is important. Ignoring a Youtube channel does hurt it if you've been watching his videos and commenting on them. They get higher priority in the algorithm. If you want to expose him as a fraud, do the research, make a video, try to spread it and take him down. That happens to be what people do with anti-vaxxers. I don't think you're going to find dirt on him, so the best you can do is not assist in the growth of his channel and the best way to do that is to not contribute to the channel. Work on being able to think enough to come up with your own insult.

One person ignoring a channel isn't going to hurt it. Plus, have you hear of an ad blocker? And about there being "no dirt on Tyler", it's very easy to see that there IS in fact quite a bit of dirt on him. Until recently, he did next to nothing to separate speculation from news, he has a bunch of clickbait titles and thumbnails, the only good news is creators.tf this creators.tf that, and he completely ignores things that might help TF2 (such as how teamwork.tf works). I thought this was a "discussion", not a place for playground insults.

[IT'S A BIRDMAN]

Originally posted by chromosome kenobi:

Originally posted by SomeBitTripFan:

Well, context is important. Ignoring a Youtube channel does hurt it if you've been watching his videos and commenting on them. They get higher priority in the algorithm. If you want to expose him as a fraud, do the research, make a video, try to spread it and take him down. That happens to be what people do with anti-vaxxers. I don't think you're going to find dirt on him, so the best you can do is not assist in the growth of his channel and the best way to do that is to not contribute to the channel. Work on being able to think enough to come up with your own insult.

One person ignoring a channel isn't going to hurt it. Plus, have you hear of an ad blocker? And about there being "no dirt on Tyler", it's very easy to see that there IS in fact quite a bit of dirt on him. Until recently, he did next to nothing to separate speculation from news, he has a bunch of clickbait titles and thumbnails, the only good news is creators.tf this creators.tf that, and he completely ignores things that might help TF2 (such as how teamwork.tf works). I thought this was a "discussion", not a place for playground insults.

its still full of bull

[sharktemplar]

VNN is notorious for being a sleazeball. He almost never credits his music, dodges criticisms of himself, is insufferably obnoxious in general (seriously did you SEE his livestream leading up to half-life: alyx announcement? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this awkward-ass high school pudgelord) and loves to lie through his teeth and word it in an interesting way to try and stay relevant.
He treats himself like he's the official spokesperson of the inner workings of valve. Literally only a moron would take VNN seriously. Not to mention how he causes drama behind the scenes with the people he works with, "firing" them for wrongthink and not kissing his boot enough.
I hope his ties to the leak come out in full and valve gets pissed and pursues legal action. Even source code no longer in use is still source code that is a serious crime to willfully leak like that.

[naii.neocities.org]

Originally posted by sharktemplar:

VNN is notorious for being a sleazeball. He almost never credits his music, dodges criticisms of himself, is insufferably obnoxious in general (seriously did you SEE his livestream leading up to half-life: alyx announcement? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this awkward-ass high school pudgelord) and loves to lie through his teeth and word it in an interesting way to try and stay relevant.
He treats himself like he's the official spokesperson of the inner workings of valve. Literally only a moron would take VNN seriously. Not to mention how he causes drama behind the scenes with the people he works with, "firing" them for wrongthink and not kissing his boot enough.
I hope his ties to the leak come out in full and valve gets pissed and pursues legal action. Even source code no longer in use is still source code that is a serious crime to willfully leak like that.

mad

[skibidi]

VNN = Valueless Nonsense News

[Tiny Tony]

Try to find Winglet's comment calling him out on trying to pin false jungle inferno map hype on the Saxxy winners instead of accepting that being told "We're on a thundery mountainous map" Means thunder mountain and not jungle inferno. All he's ever done is build false hype, make bad speculation worded as fact and hide from self criticism or acceptance of any wrong doing. Even if he admits bad he never changes. He should not be entrusted with any of this information.

[Tiny Tony]

Originally posted by sharktemplar:

VNN is notorious for being a sleazeball. He almost never credits his music, dodges criticisms of himself, is insufferably obnoxious in general (seriously did you SEE his livestream leading up to half-life: alyx announcement? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this awkward-ass high school pudgelord) and loves to lie through his teeth and word it in an interesting way to try and stay relevant.
He treats himself like he's the official spokesperson of the inner workings of valve. Literally only a moron would take VNN seriously. Not to mention how he causes drama behind the scenes with the people he works with, "firing" them for wrongthink and not kissing his boot enough.
I hope his ties to the leak come out in full and valve gets pissed and pursues legal action. Even source code no longer in use is still source code that is a serious crime to willfully leak like that.

^

[Tiny Tony]

Originally posted by Ivan:

Originally posted by sharktemplar:

VNN is notorious for being a sleazeball. He almost never credits his music, dodges criticisms of himself, is insufferably obnoxious in general (seriously did you SEE his livestream leading up to half-life: alyx announcement? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this awkward-ass high school pudgelord) and loves to lie through his teeth and word it in an interesting way to try and stay relevant.
He treats himself like he's the official spokesperson of the inner workings of valve. Literally only a moron would take VNN seriously. Not to mention how he causes drama behind the scenes with the people he works with, "firing" them for wrongthink and not kissing his boot enough.
I hope his ties to the leak come out in full and valve gets pissed and pursues legal action. Even source code no longer in use is still source code that is a serious crime to willfully leak like that.

mad

NDA.

[SomeBitTripFan]

Originally posted by chromosome kenobi:

Originally posted by SomeBitTripFan:

Well, context is important. Ignoring a Youtube channel does hurt it if you've been watching his videos and commenting on them. They get higher priority in the algorithm. If you want to expose him as a fraud, do the research, make a video, try to spread it and take him down. That happens to be what people do with anti-vaxxers. I don't think you're going to find dirt on him, so the best you can do is not assist in the growth of his channel and the best way to do that is to not contribute to the channel. Work on being able to think enough to come up with your own insult.

One person ignoring a channel isn't going to hurt it. Plus, have you hear of an ad blocker? And about there being "no dirt on Tyler", it's very easy to see that there IS in fact quite a bit of dirt on him. Until recently, he did next to nothing to separate speculation from news, he has a bunch of clickbait titles and thumbnails, the only good news is creators.tf this creators.tf that, and he completely ignores things that might help TF2 (such as how teamwork.tf works). I thought this was a "discussion", not a place for playground insults.

I gave you your options and offered my own opinion. As it turns out, you aren't going to convince me that Tyler is some mastermind who's destroying TF2 for profit. I find some of his choices questionable, I don't like his exclusive focus on Creators.tf. If you want to make a video "exposing" him, go right ahead. Expose him with hard evidence and logic and distribute that information to the best of your ability. That's the best you can probably do. Otherwise, the best you can do legally and morally is ignore the channel. You're just arguing details or things I explicitly state as my opinion. I'm tired of repeating myself. While insults are childish, trying to posture yourself as more mature after throwing an identical insult back at someone because you couldn't come up with your own is even more childish. And yes, my initial insult was still childish, but I'm still to childish to let it go.

[skibidi]

vnn fans be mad at this point