Thoughts on the Persian Persuader?

[jungus]

Recently, I've been using this weapon with the Splendid Screen and the Grenade Launcher. It's a pretty fun combo, however the max ammo penalty is quite a strong downside.

For those unfamiliar with the Persian Persuaders stats:

+Melee hits refill 20% of your charge

+Ammo boxes refill your charge

-No random crits (this makes it fair and balanced)

-80% max ammo for primary

-80% max ammo for secondar

I was wondering what peoples thought about this weapon as it isn't too popular, but seems like it could be quite strong with a slight tweek.

[Et tu, B?]

have you seen those demomen? they've got curved persuaders, curved persuaders.

[PalzyV2]

thats the point of the weapon your not supposed to use your primary or secondary its for pure demoknights

[Unusual]

The whole point of it is to be pure demoknight, its probably one of the more balanced swords.

[Torpid]

Bending anything makes it cooler. Bend a straw, you got a bendy straw, bend a breadstick, you got a pretzel, bend the rules, you got a badass.
So of course bending a sword makes an extremely cool weapon.
The Persian Persuader is a truly amazing weapon that allows demoknights all over the globe to basically have constant charge. This extremely powerful weapon combo'd with the Splendid Screen allow you to charge around so often you can slam into your enemies and DECAPITATE them like such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ madman it's incredible.

I use this godlike thing every single time i play demoknight and i love it

[green]

It's very strong on a pure demoknight build.

[GhostyOsty]

I honestly think it's one of the best Demoman Melees for Pirating.

[A J S]

I use it , it's an awesome weapon with tide turner. you charge someone kill them, they drop ammo box, and you can charge again at a second enemy.

[Heatmaker]

Unpopular opinion: It's a terrible melee for demo. I prefer stock

[rad_knight]

Aside from encouraging insanely unfunny people to make crappy jokes about random crits, it’s pretty good for what it is.
If you think of demoknight as it’s own class with the charge n’ targe and eyelander as stock then it’s a great side grade. The amount of times the ability to pick up ammo for charge has saved me as demoknight is honestly to many to count, but the inability to collect heads and heal on kill makes it worse in some ways and better in others. It’s a pretty good side grade.

[trash]

the original version was pretty crazy since you could run gl+sbl and you'd heal huge health off of dead enemy ammo pickups, while dispensers/carts would still give you ammo until the nerf hit
moving swords to mostly demoknight-centric stats was a healthy change

charge spam is fun, but you're probably better off with something else
screen bash kills benefit more from the eyelander getting crazy boosted damage from heads

[Emurinus]

It's not bad, but there are better options.

[Kasalien Teto]

Originally posted by Emurinus:

It's not bad, but there are better options.

DEMOPAN TF2!!!

[97 vols still not pirate king]

it enforces a full demoknight style

it was good in previous iterations but here I'd rather take the skullcutter and booties if I wanted pure demoknight

[jungus]

Originally posted by exodus:

it enforces a full demoknight style

it was good in previous iterations but here I'd rather take the skullcutter and booties if I wanted pure demoknight

I think the ammo penalty is fine, although I think it should be -75% instead of -80% since it would mean 4 reserve instead of 3. The way I see it, you trade some of the reliability of your Grenade launcher for a more reliable melee/charge.

[Le Kiwi]

really good against bots. like OP against bots