Team Fortress 2
nyxkitty Nov 10, 2016 @ 4:01pm
Weird latency problem
So, starting late last night yesterday, I've been having weird problems with latency. This only happens in tf2, and i can surf the internet at regular speeds. Downloads work fine, uploads work fine, it's just tf2 with the high latency. I'm not torrenting or downloading anything in the background, I triple checked. All the community servers are 100+ latency. Any solution or help will be greatly appreciated.
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Ace42 Nov 10, 2016 @ 4:05pm 
Have you tried any non-source games to see what their latency is like?
Have you accidentally selected region-based filtering in the browser, and thus excluded lower-latency servers that are outside of what the game considers to be that geographic region?
nyxkitty Nov 10, 2016 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Ace42:
Have you tried any non-source games to see what their latency is like?
Have you accidentally selected region-based filtering in the browser, and thus excluded lower-latency servers that are outside of what the game considers to be that geographic region?
Yes, my latency is fine in other games, like warface and Paladins. Like i said it's just TF2 doing this to me
Ace42 Nov 10, 2016 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by Cpt. Yuri:
Yes, my latency is fine in other games, like warface and Paladins. Like i said it's just TF2 doing this to me

Is this high latency reported by the server browser / in-game or both?
Is it the same for casual servers?
Do you have cs:go or gmod or any other source game available, and are there issues with these?
nyxkitty Nov 10, 2016 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by Ace42:
Originally posted by Cpt. Yuri:
Yes, my latency is fine in other games, like warface and Paladins. Like i said it's just TF2 doing this to me

Is this high latency reported by the server browser / in-game or both?
Is it the same for casual servers?
Do you have cs:go or gmod or any other source game available, and are there issues with these?
Yes, in the server browser, the latency number is upwards of 100 for every server, no matter what gamemode. Unfortunately, i don't have any other source games ATM, so i cant test.
Ace42 Nov 10, 2016 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Cpt. Yuri:
Yes, in the server browser, the latency number is upwards of 100 for every server, no matter what gamemode. Unfortunately, i don't have any other source games ATM, so i cant test.

And if you join those servers the latency is equally high? Is the game showing packetloss whilst connected to one of those servers?
nyxkitty Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Ace42:
Originally posted by Cpt. Yuri:
Yes, in the server browser, the latency number is upwards of 100 for every server, no matter what gamemode. Unfortunately, i don't have any other source games ATM, so i cant test.

And if you join those servers the latency is equally high? Is the game showing packetloss whilst connected to one of those servers?
Yes, i rubber band quite frequently, and when i'm not rubber banding, my shots aren't registering. When i press tab, i see a single, red bar where my ping is. Not sure what the signs of packet loss are, though...
Last edited by nyxkitty; Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:03pm
Ace42 Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Cpt. Yuri:
Yes, i rubber band quite frequently, and when i'm not rubber banding, my shots aren't registering. When i press tab, i see a single, red bar where my ping is.

My first guess would be network problems, maybe packet-shaping. But if other games are working flawlessly, that would not seem to be the case.

TF2's networking is pretty straight-forward, so there's no reason why it should uniquely be acting up.

You've not installed any configuration files or run any scripts that might be pissing around with the in-game settings?
Not installed any "connection booster" software, firewalls or antivirus that might be interfering with the packets?

Definitely not using any weird filters in the server-browser that might be only showing up inappropriately distant servers?

Eitherway, I'd suggest checking speedtest.net just to double-check and make completely sure your bandwidth and latency is fine outside of game.
If you're connecting via WiFi it might be worth trying to connect via Ethernet if possible to eliminate that as a potential problem.
Last edited by Ace42; Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:07pm
Dewa Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:11pm 
psa thread has some things to deal with this
nyxkitty Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by Ace42:
Originally posted by Cpt. Yuri:
Yes, i rubber band quite frequently, and when i'm not rubber banding, my shots aren't registering. When i press tab, i see a single, red bar where my ping is.

My first guess would be network problems, maybe packet-shaping. But if other games are working flawlessly, that would not seem to be the case.

TF2's networking is pretty straight-forward, so there's no reason why it should uniquely be acting up.

You've not installed any configuration files or run any scripts that might be pissing around with the in-game settings?
Not installed any "connection booster" software, firewalls or antivirus that might be interfering with the packets?

Definitely not using any weird filters in the server-browser that might be only showing up inappropriately distant servers?

Eitherway, I'd suggest checking speedtest.net just to double-check and make completely sure your bandwidth and latency is fine outside of game.
If you're connecting via WiFi it might be worth trying to connect via Ethernet if possible to eliminate that as a potential problem.
No config files, only Windows firewall. dont even know what connection booster software would be... Not sure about the filters, but all the servers appear to be in America. I am connected via ethernet cable, which is why I'm confused.

My Speedtest.net Readout was as follows:
Ping: 24 ms
Down speed: 66.69 Mbps
Up speed: 6.01 Mbps
Ace42 Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:40pm 
Got me stumped.

If speedtest.net is showing consistent bandwidth and low latency, then your connection is essentially sound.
If other games are showing low latency, then that suggests that your ISP isn't packet-shaping and thus delaying realtime datagrams and nothing else is hogging your bandwidth.
If wired, can't be WiFi defaulting to power-saving mode and thus crapping out performance.

If Casual isn't connecting you to low-latency Valve servers, then that would suggest the issue isn't with server-selection; especially if you can't find *and* low-latency community servers in your immediate vicinity via the Browser.

While you're connected to a server, what's your framerate like? CPU stalling could inadvertently delay packets on some configurations, although that's a long-shot given TF2's age and other games not having issues.
nyxkitty Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by Ace42:
Got me stumped.

If speedtest.net is showing consistent bandwidth and low latency, then your connection is essentially sound.
If other games are showing low latency, then that suggests that your ISP isn't packet-shaping and thus delaying realtime datagrams and nothing else is hogging your bandwidth.
If wired, can't be WiFi defaulting to power-saving mode and thus crapping out performance.

If Casual isn't connecting you to low-latency Valve servers, then that would suggest the issue isn't with server-selection; especially if you can't find *and* low-latency community servers in your immediate vicinity via the Browser.

While you're connected to a server, what's your framerate like? CPU stalling could inadvertently delay packets on some configurations, although that's a long-shot given TF2's age and other games not having issues.
My framerate is 45-60 fps, no stuttering at all except when i start lagging out
Ace42 Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:46pm 
Hmmm... In the Steam Client go to View > Servers and check out what it's doing.

Filter for TF2 servers and screengrab the results (sort the servers by ascending order of latency); then do the same for CS:GO.
nyxkitty Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:50pm 
Originally posted by Ace42:
Hmmm... In the Steam Client go to View > Servers and check out what it's doing.

Filter for TF2 servers and screengrab the results (sort the servers by ascending order of latency); then do the same for CS:GO.
Actually, TF2 Just updated and my problems are gone! Thanks so much for your help, though!
Dewa Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:57pm 
Btw, nice "out there somewhere" pic
Nice to see some1 who loves the game as much as i do
Last edited by Dewa; Nov 10, 2016 @ 5:58pm
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