I really don’t understand the hate for CTF

[waldo wrangler]

If you seriously don’t like it, there’s an option not to queue up for it. Just press a button. Some people enjoy running and capturing intel and some don’t. Besides, most CTF matches (2fort especially) are extremely laid back

[Emurinus]

Most people that hate CTF already do that, but that doesn't mean the gamemode isn't trash. The problem is that both the maps and the gamemode as a whole are fundamentally flawed.

The maps themselves are way too forgiving for defending players, they generally require you to spawncamp the enemy for a chance at taking the intel, and the maps are often too linear which forces easy chokepoints.

The gamemode is also at fault because it lacks a timer I still want to slap the idiot who thought it was a good idea to remove it, holding the intelligence hostage brings the game to a standstill, and the gamemode forces two objectives for both teams to follow, often splitting teams between offense and defense.

[trash]

Originally posted by Emurinus:

Most people that hate CTF already do that, but that doesn't mean the gamemode isn't trash. The problem is that both the maps and the gamemode as a whole are fundamentally flawed.

The maps themselves are way too forgiving for defending players, they generally require you to spawncamp the enemy for a chance at taking the intel, and the maps are often too linear which forces easy chokepoints.

The gamemode is also at fault because it lacks a timer I still want to slap the idiot who thought it was a good idea to remove it, holding the intelligence hostage brings the game to a standstill, and the gamemode forces two objectives for both teams to follow, often splitting teams between offense and defense.

[FaeVortex]

Originally posted by SN0IPE:

If you seriously don’t like it, there’s an option not to queue up for it. Just press a button. Some people enjoy running and capturing intel and some don’t. Besides, most CTF matches (2fort especially) are extremely laid back

I don't like it because they literally always drag on forever, sometimes lasting hours. Playing the same map with the same people for that long isn't very fun.

[frackingfan6969]

once I acquired almost 200 points on a ctf.
got disconnected
fun.

[Soggy Bread]

• No time limit
• No Team is "required" to push, which leads to camping, stalemates, and hour long games.
• CTF system is flawed, somewhat confusing, an not fun for some
• Can teach new and old players bad habits and incorrect strategies.
• AWFUL map designs

I personally enjoy CTF to an extent, to me it's not stressful and after a long day of work I just want to halfass on a sever that nobody should be taking 100% seriously. Normally I only have the time to play about 30 minutes, CTF is a perfect remedy after a stressful day. I can play mindlessly with people who are also just mindlessly playing, or just having a chill match, theres no stress to get the objective done or need for extreme focus to win the match due to the flawed system. I also enjoy warming up on CTF if I took a break from the game or need some extra practice. Also you see some pretty crazy ♥♥♥♥ on CTF, its entertaining.

The game mode is not really how the game should be played, it's a pretty awful game mode. People are still entitled to enjoy it, I enjoy it myself. It's okay to like bad things.

[rad_knight]

me not needing to watch/read twilight movies/books doesn't make them any less terrible.
the excuse of "if you don't like it, don't play it" while not entirely unwelcome, when it comes to the actual quality of the game mode itself is a pretty terrible argument

[jazzisnotdead]

You all don't think that all the supposed issues everyone has with CTF, including the lack of a timer, "awful map design", long game sessions, etc. were intentional decisions by the development team within Valve?

It seems we are so quick to create our own dismay or suffering because we're sometimes guilty of perceiving the game in very linear terms, as a "team-based shooter meant to be played competitively or the way it's presented" as opposed to an interpretive work of art? It certainly seems the game, along with other Valve titles, was made with the sentiment to express certain ideas that go beyond our face-value perceptions of what a game is.

[Nemesis2k7]

ignore the screechers. honestly. they dont know what they are talking about. CTF is the biggest salt mine on TF2. Loads of people cry when you 'cap' and they wont PTFO. i love trolling the ♥♥♥♥ out of them, flooding the chat so they cannot talk, all sorts. sometimes i even throw in a DDOS attack or 2, for the REALLY persistant trolls. cleans the server right out.

[Nemesis2k7]

GIT GUD SCRUB. that about sums it up, for the whingers.

[Staffy]

CTF is played only by toxics: toxic tryhards, pseudo-friendlies, engie mains, e.t.c.

[Hellnickell]

It's boring.

[Wiener Hole Paper Cut]

5CP isn't much better. Nine whole minutes added after a team caps? I like some of those maps but a lot of those games never end. A lot of teams just turtle and don't even try to push out past the last point or two.

[Festivized-Nugget]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

ignore the screechers. honestly. they dont know what they are talking about. CTF is the biggest salt mine on TF2. Loads of people cry when you 'cap' and they wont PTFO. i love trolling the ♥♥♥♥ out of them, flooding the chat so they cannot talk, all sorts. sometimes i even throw in a DDOS attack or 2, for the REALLY persistant trolls. cleans the server right out.

so your the one who ruins tf2 for everyone huh. i want games that last for hours, they are fun. no need to ruin it for others.

[Festivized-Nugget]

Originally posted by Staffy:

CTF is played only by toxics: toxic tryhards, pseudo-friendlies, engie mains, e.t.c.

i cant remember the last time ive been an engi on 2fort, and i only que 2fort.

[Akaboogalo Boss]

Originally posted by Festivized Nugget:

Originally posted by Nemesis:

ignore the screechers. honestly. they dont know what they are talking about. CTF is the biggest salt mine on TF2. Loads of people cry when you 'cap' and they wont PTFO. i love trolling the ♥♥♥♥ out of them, flooding the chat so they cannot talk, all sorts. sometimes i even throw in a DDOS attack or 2, for the REALLY persistant trolls. cleans the server right out.

so your the one who ruins tf2 for everyone huh. i want games that last for hours, they are fun. no need to ruin it for others.

There's nothing wrong with liking games that last for hours, but whining about them not lasting for hours is.