Is Spawn Camping fair?

[Numba1hobo]

I sometimes see people saying spawn camping is unfair. Is it unfair? In my opinon is fair its just people that are getting spawn camped complain its unfair.

For them to even spawn camp you they had to wreck almost everyone on your team and not only that but get set up in front of your spawn. While you were sitting back or letting one or a few people wreck your whole team

. Even if you say how about attack and defend where they get to set up. You still can spawn faster then them. Example lets say if they got set up right near your spawn and they spawn camping you you get faster respawn time your spawn time is only 2-6 seconds while they have a 10-19 second spawn time.

So if you killed one of them but you died. While they are waiting for respawn your already out the door again.When people complain its unfair its normally because they are getting spawn camped and reason why is.

1.they're not good and the simply cant win against the better player(the player spawn camping). 2. They wont change class to whats needed. Whether it was made for it or not the people getting spawn camp have the advanteges which are

. 1.you get a resupply at your spawn which can instantly give you full health and ammo. 2.there is no travel time. 3.(not all the times but most of the time) you have different exits

.Although you may say what if they have a multiple engis that can also teleport and give health and ammo. You still can destroy their building and then they have to rebuild them unlike your can not be destroyed(which would not take to long to rebuild something with multiple engis but goes back to killing them so they cant).

I mention this because i want to see what the community has to say on it. Whether these point and others you might come up with make it where its fair or you dont agree with them and have your own points you might makeaswell.(also I know this is alot to read but I did want to be a bit detail so i wouldnt have to reply as much to questions/arguements i already thought people would say)

[ＨＹＰＥＲ]

If you're on the team that's spawncamping, yes it's fair.

EDIT: I recommend (often) using the Stickybomb Launcher, works like a charm. Sometimes taunt after some kills if you're 100% sure that it's safe. If not, then do a taunt that can be canceled out quickly, like the Conga for example, it's perfect for every and any situation. Don't overdo it though because sometimes it makes it look like they were special to you or something, and of course, for safety. Same goes for binds, don't overdo them for the same reasons mentioned but usually it's great to get in their heads. Have fun mate, cheers.

[Tsar Platinum]

1. Yes it is fair. But to a certain degree.

2. Use paragraphs please, I learned this ♥♥♥♥ in the third grade

[Jimmy Hunter]

If you can't push out of spawn with unlimited health/ammo, you got outplayed and should get over yourself.

[Cee]

It is. Your team had to have been pushed back so far. Also, you have an infinite health cabinet.

[Tsar Platinum]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

If you can't push out of spawn with unlimited health/ammo, you got outplayed and should get over yourself.

I agree with this on every map except on offense on last. You can be killed as soon as you spawn because the spawn is too small

[Stink3y]

Yes. The defending team allowed the attackers to reach their spawn so they deserve to be punished for their carelessness.

The only exceptions would be poor map design where the spawns are exposed and chokey. Hoodoo First on attack is a glaring example; the exits are literally open to a sniper sightline and the defenders can shoot right into spawn.

Aside from very specific maps, spawncamping is fair game.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Mann With No Name:

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

If you can't push out of spawn with unlimited health/ammo, you got outplayed and should get over yourself.

I agree with this on every map except on offense on last. You can be killed as soon as you spawn because the spawn is too small

"Offense on last".

Last of what map? Because I don't know of any maps you can get inside the spawn of without exploiting out of map.

[Numba1hobo]

I see some people saying about on a specific map its unfair but thats just poor map design not game in all.

[Smugleaf]

Spawncamping is as fair as a team full of skilled players communicating to defeat a team of uncoordinated players.

[zoinks]

Personally, i'm not a big fan of spawn camping. I mean, i'm not saying that you're a bad person if you camp, its just really boring when the enemy does spawncamp. Like, theirs nothing to do other than just stand around. except for when that one Player walks out and gets the entire team crit rocketed. And this is coming from someone who LOVES to camp.
-Someone who LOVES to camp.

[Tsar Platinum]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by Mann With No Name:

I agree with this on every map except on offense on last. You can be killed as soon as you spawn because the spawn is too small

"Offense on last".

Last of what map? Because I don't know of any maps you can get inside the spawn of without exploiting out of map.

Sorry. Upward.

It's not a glitch either.
The spawn is so small on last, on offense that the doors open automatically sometimes on respawn, meaning a Pyro can spawn camp a team to Oblivion.

[Charlie5L]

Spawncamping is the strategy of "Fun to do, hate to play against".

Generally, when I play with buds, we avoid spawncamping. Especially if we're on the defending team. Spawncamping/overextending can still screw your team over, especially if a Scout or a Spy get past.

I think however, in things like eSports, spawncamping shouldn't be praised. I've seen games in Overwatch, TF2, and (technically) Call of Duty where people spawncamped and got praised because the hosts and viewers say it's "the best strategy ever", when really, it's easy to do.

But yeah. Spawncamping is fine.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Originally posted by Mann With No Name:

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

"Offense on last".

Last of what map? Because I don't know of any maps you can get inside the spawn of without exploiting out of map.

Sorry. Upward.

It's not a glitch either.
The spawn is so small on last, on offense that the doors open automatically sometimes on respawn, meaning a Pyro can spawn camp a team to Oblivion.

I wouldn't really classify that as a "Spawncamping isn't fair", but more of a "Upward's last spawn is bugged".

[empty]

I would say that it's fair.

[soggu]

Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:

Originally posted by Mann With No Name:

I agree with this on every map except on offense on last. You can be killed as soon as you spawn because the spawn is too small

"Offense on last".

Last of what map? Because I don't know of any maps you can get inside the spawn of without exploiting out of map.

Payload ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Frontier when you spawn in that 4x4 closet.