The new short circuit is horrible .

[kampfer91]

It use 65 metal to shoot a ball that only travel short distance , do 15 damage and no critical hit , what the hell , thise weapon is another meme weapon , the old one was better in the hand of skilled engineer .

[Dog Pound]

The ability to endlessly spam an anti projectile weapon is not skilled

[crack connoisseur]

Originally posted by .Moe Hellvanedge:

The ability to endlessly spam an anti projectile weapon is not skilled

Correct.

[Vlad the Impala]

Originally posted by .Moe Hellvanedge:

The ability to endlessly spam an anti projectile weapon is not skilled

Tbh this does the same thing, just needs a cart or dispenser to sustain it.

[empty]

Originally posted by Staplerfahrer Klaus:

Originally posted by .Moe Hellvanedge:

The ability to endlessly spam an anti projectile weapon is not skilled

Tbh this does the same thing, just needs a cart or dispenser to sustain it.

Therefore, it is technically not "endless".

[Dog Pound]

Originally posted by Staplerfahrer Klaus:

Originally posted by .Moe Hellvanedge:

The ability to endlessly spam an anti projectile weapon is not skilled

Tbh this does the same thing, just needs a cart or dispenser to sustain it.

I haven't used the new short circuit yet and so I could be entirely wrong but it sounds like you need some degree of accuracy to use it effectively

[kampfer91]

Even if it hit still do 15 damages for a very high cost , why bother using it when you have Wrangler .
And no , it no longer destroy projectile .

[Maiq]

The new short circuit is broken, right click hitboxes of is too big, you sit near dispenser or payload and spam it hitting multiple enemies multiple times and disabling demo and soldier.
The hitboxes of right click need to be smaller end engi can't get metal from dispenser and payload while active will fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8VqvJJH1nw

[catbug]

never use it. never will.

[TheBiggestFan]

Apparently the ball you can shoot can also erase another engineers ball

[John Doe]

Rockets (also apply to pipes)

>soldier fires 3 rockets at your sentry
>considering you have full metal and Godlike aim, proceed to destroy the projectiles and are left with 5 metal.
>soldier fires his last rocket and damages your sentry
>soldier reloads twice and finishes the job
>you run for the dispenser to cure your sentry and refill the short circuit
>you come back just to die

Stickybombs

>demoman fires 3
>you remove them with the short circuit
>run for more metal
>demo finishes the job with the rest of his 5 stickies
>you come back just to die

Sounds fair enough.

[sad]

Originally posted by G.I. want boom boom?:

Rockets (also apply to pipes)

>soldier fires 3 rockets at your sentry
>considering you have full metal and Godlike aim, proceed to destroy the projectiles and are left with 5 metal.
>soldier fires his last rocket and damages your sentry
>soldier reloads twice and finishes the job
>you run for the dispenser to cure your sentry and refill the short circuit
>you come back just to die

Stickybombs

>demoman fires 3
>you remove them with the short circuit
>run for more metal
>demo finishes the job with the rest of his 5 stickies
>you come back just to die

Sounds fair enough.

Thought this was Team Fortress 2, guess I’m fighting solo as a class that isn’t particularly good at solo engagements.

And how are you wasting 3 balls just to get rid of 3 stickies? Realistically, a ball will last enough to stop two rockets or pipes fired consecutively. They’d need to space it out, and in the time it takes to deplete those 3 balls, you’d either need to relocate by then or your team would have pushed up.

[76561198300840017]

theoretically, if aim correctly you can shut down a rapid firing crit robot soldier so yea. Its kinda decent in mvm now.
(which means a future MvM update is coming).

[John Doe]

Originally posted by WokAn'Roll:

Originally posted by G.I. want boom boom?:

Rockets (also apply to pipes)

>soldier fires 3 rockets at your sentry
>considering you have full metal and Godlike aim, proceed to destroy the projectiles and are left with 5 metal.
>soldier fires his last rocket and damages your sentry
>soldier reloads twice and finishes the job
>you run for the dispenser to cure your sentry and refill the short circuit
>you come back just to die

Stickybombs

>demoman fires 3
>you remove them with the short circuit
>run for more metal
>demo finishes the job with the rest of his 5 stickies
>you come back just to die

Sounds fair enough.

Thought this was Team Fortress 2, guess I’m fighting solo as a class that isn’t particularly good at solo engagements.

And how are you wasting 3 balls just to get rid of 3 stickies? Realistically, a ball will last enough to stop two rockets or pipes fired consecutively. They’d need to space it out, and in the time it takes to deplete those 3 balls, you’d either need to relocate by then or your team would have pushed up.

You Fortress 2*. Actual useful teammates are rare, specially if you are playing engi, where people think you can handle yourself because your sentry is doing the killing for you and sll you need to do is repair and guard it. Besides, in a demo situation, the demoman will most likely activate the stickies once he lays 3 of them (because 3 is enough to do the job) and even if not, he can shoot 3 more and make 2 last attempts to at least damage it, and the engi will have used all the metal by now by either shooting the ball or repairing the sentry. Then the demo gets his last chance by laying pipes while the engi is grabbing metal. On a soldier situation, unless hes using the beggar's (and if the projectile angle is lucky for him), the engi will rarely be able to one shot two rockets. A good soldier controls his rocket output and dont just spam (pheh, ive seen plenty of them who prove me wrong), so he will wait for the engi to run out of metal.

[Ray]

throw it in the trash, use wrangler.

[Sawmp monster]

This one is better than the old version.

A.) It protects against spam better, because instead of one shot instantly destroying the rockets that are close to you and not the ones far away, the ball destroys everything while the projectiles are moving toward you

B.) The range of it is much farther now, it used to be that they'd be 2 - 3 oil barrels away from you for it to lock onto them. Now, the projectile can go the distance of the 2fort bridge, which is about 10 oil barrels.

C.) It requires better positioning and has a much higher reward feeling. Instead of mindlessly spamming mouse 2 for the weapon to aim for you, you have to put more thought into it, and it feels much more rewarding to see the ball vaporize anything in its path, which actually has a higher chance of people using it more.

I'd just say it needs a 25% damage buff so it does 20 damage instead of 15