Dead ringer, why is it bad?

[dingleton]

Many people say that the Dead Ringer is a terrible spy choice, though it is a good way to learn how to use spy correctly (if you use the dead ringer, you would know what and what not to do to not or do die). Please explain why people hate it,


PS : This also applies to cloak and dagger (my fav disguise tool)

[Heatmaker]

No cloak from ammo boxes

[dingleton]

Hide somewhere and unlcloak
( ill reply to ur suggestions)

[Heatmaker]

Originally posted by Funneh_Boi:

Hide somewhere and unlcloak
( ill reply to ur suggestions)

quoting exists
So apparently hiding in a corner for 20 seconds is being useful to your team

[emperor derd]

DR:
because it teaches terrible habits to new spies.
alot of the time it's used as a crutch.
and after the most recent nerfs it's just not a good weapon

CnD:
sits in a corner the entire match doing ♥♥♥♥ all

[dingleton]

Ahhhhhh, got it

[dingleton]

Well, ivisi watch is apparently the stand out, no one seems to have a problem with it suprisingly

[Heatmaker]

Originally posted by Funneh_Boi:

Well, ivisi watch is apparently the stand out, no one seems to have a problem with it suprisingly

That's becuase it's the best all rounder. If you know the locations of ammo boxes on the map, you can basically have a Cloak and Dagger but be able to move around longer

[emperor derd]

Originally posted by Funneh_Boi:

Well, ivisi watch is apparently the stand out, no one seems to have a problem with it suprisingly

because it lacks the crutchy nature of the DR and you can't sit in a corner with your thumb up your ass for an entire match like with the CnD

[C. Taunts]

As a Spy main i will give my two cents on why it sucks.

First off.
Loud decloak, you only have like 5-6 seconds of escape plus speed boost. If you used it at enemy backlines the pyro that turned up the volume to max can hear those across the map and somehow be able to track you down, and you cant manually cloak, so enemy will question what were their scout doing in the backlines.

Second,
Its extremely predictable by very good players, opposite of how spy should be and they know that its just a fake death.

Third, the top of the score board doesnt use grayed out picture of the spy when he dead ringer so they know he is still alive.

Fourth, Its very unreliable, why fake your death through the enemy backlines and get killed by that pyro from earlier when you can just use invis watch and decloak much more quietly and can do it manually?

[dingleton]

The reason i included cloak and dagger is because i brought it in a way that you dont wait every 10 minutes charging, i meant those who are really good at using it consistently but not continously

[dingleton]

Welp, thats done

Summary

Dead ringer: Loud as hell ( which i already kinda knew)

Cloak and dagger: A huge nuisance to the enemy team if ur good at it

Invisi watch: the only thing that’s normal

[dingleton]

Case closed

[dingleton]

Last thing, screw CnD corner spies

[76561199152276129]

First of all:
Dead Ringer: Got nerfed after Jungle Inferno update, and lot a people still use it.

Cloak and Dagger: Pretty cool, use it with the L'Etranger, useful for more cloak.

Invis Watch: Normal just a stock.

Fact: I'm a Spy main and I prefer to use DR and Invis, I still wait C&D in random drop item.