Why Soldier is objectively the easiest class to main

[punk]

Now I'm not saying that Soldier is over-powered, although there is an argument to be made there. I'm saying that Soldier is the easiest class to main and get good at.

If you are unfamiliar with the concept of hard-counters in TF2, it is a class that has a significant advantage against another class in most situations. There are two basic hard-counter "loops" in TF2 (-> means counters):

Scout -> Demo -> Engie -> Scout...

Sniper -> Heavy -> Pyro -> Spy -> Sniper...

Soldier and Medic do not have hard counters meaning that they are viable regardless of the enemy team's class composition. Medic is basically countered by everything, but then counters everything back with Uber.

Soldier's only weaknesses are movement speed and slow projectile speed. Movement speed can be improved with rocket jumping.

Soldier is viable in basically every situation, so he ends up being a lot of people's most played class.

[Cee]

He's a very viable class in every situations, and even in 1v1 against scouts that are at the same skill ceiling, the 75 more health means a lot.

[MannsOverMeta]

He does have a reputation for being easy. This information isn't new.

[Emurinus]

Originally posted by Hippie PhD:

Soldier's only weaknesses are movement speed and slow projectile speed. Movement speed can be improved with rocket jumping.

Liberty Launcher and Gunboats are basically the "♥♥♥♥ you" to both, putting him in roughly the same basket as Sniper when it comes to counters.

He's most certainly easy to play though. Hell, rocket jumping is the only thing about him that requires decent skill, but it's basically a sport beyond simple jumps.

[Cee]

Originally posted by GodOfTheNether:

Originally posted by Hippie PhD:

Soldier's only weaknesses are movement speed and slow projectile speed. Movement speed can be improved with rocket jumping.

Liberty Launcher and Gunboats are basically the "♥♥♥♥ you" to both, putting him in roughly the same basket as Sniper when it comes to counters.

He's most certainly easy to play though. Hell, rocket jumping is the only thing about him that requires decent skill, but it's basically a sport beyond simple jumps.

I would say that predicting players movements' and hitting them directly takes skill too, but most of Soldiers are spamming rockets and hitting with blast damage, while that is OK, some of them ♥♥♥♥ on you by saying "lol newbie" etc. when they over-extended at rocket jumped at you and killed you. (Which can be the soldier's job, but whatever.)

[trash]

Originally posted by Hippie PhD:

Soldier's only weaknesses are movement speed and slow projectile speed

you're forgetting low damage, low ammo, low ground speed, vulnerability to hitscan, being a bad uber target for pushing against sentries/pyros/heavies, all of which are easier than soldier

Originally posted by Hippie PhD:

Why Soldier is objectively the easiest class to main

if you genuinely believe this, you're an absolute idiot who is terrible at the game and thinks explosives are easier as a result of your own overwhelming incompetence when using hitscan

[Cee]

Originally posted by slop:

Originally posted by Hippie PhD:

Soldier's only weaknesses are movement speed and slow projectile speed

you're forgetting low damage, low ammo, low ground speed, vulnerability to hitscan, being a bad uber target for pushing against sentries/pyros/heavies, all of which are easier than soldier

Originally posted by Hippie PhD:

Why Soldier is objectively the easiest class to main

if you genuinely believe this, you're an absolute idiot who is terrible at the game and thinks explosives are easier as a result of your own overwhelming incompetence when using hitscan

s h o t g u n s a y s h e l l o








While I do agree he's very easy on pubs etc, he's not so strong in comp (like everyone should know)

[Emurinus]

Originally posted by eggs d:

Originally posted by GodOfTheNether:

Liberty Launcher and Gunboats are basically the "♥♥♥♥ you" to both, putting him in roughly the same basket as Sniper when it comes to counters.

He's most certainly easy to play though. Hell, rocket jumping is the only thing about him that requires decent skill, but it's basically a sport beyond simple jumps.

I would say that predicting players movements' and hitting them directly takes skill too, but most of Soldiers are spamming rockets and hitting with blast damage, while that is OK, some of them ♥♥♥♥ on you by saying "lol newbie" etc. when they over-extended at rocket jumped at you and killed you. (Which can be the soldier's job, but whatever.)

Predicting player's movements applies to all classes; Soldier's nuke sized splash though minimizes the need to aim all while making it more easy since the rockets explode on any surface unlike Demo's explosives.

[Deadmeat0]

he has the lowest skill floor, and one of the lower skill ceilings, yes.

[Cee]

Originally posted by Λ¢ק A Festive Slab of Meat:

he has the lowest skill floor, and one of the lower skill ceilings, yes.

lowish skill floor, high skill ceiling*

[Deadmeat0]

Originally posted by eggs d:

Originally posted by Λ¢ק A Festive Slab of Meat:

he has the lowest skill floor, and one of the lower skill ceilings, yes.

lowish skill floor, high skill ceiling*

I can speed pogo with ease, and I don't even play solly that often.

[Cee]

Originally posted by Λ¢ק A Festive Slab of Meat:

Originally posted by eggs d:

lowish skill floor, high skill ceiling*

I can speed pogo with ease, and I don't even play solly that often.

in pubs?

sure thats easier to do when scouts arent hitting you.

[Schizoman]

Soldier is easy in casual mode where there are 12 morons to splash dmg and you have random crits.

Hard as hell in comp where there are more good scouts denying you and its more pick/1v1 oriented

[Spongedope Crackpants]

Originally posted by eggs d:

Originally posted by slop:

you're forgetting low damage, low ammo, low ground speed, vulnerability to hitscan, being a bad uber target for pushing against sentries/pyros/heavies, all of which are easier than soldier


if you genuinely believe this, you're an absolute idiot who is terrible at the game and thinks explosives are easier as a result of your own overwhelming incompetence when using hitscan

s h o t g u n s a y s h e l l o








While I do agree he's very easy on pubs etc, he's not so strong in comp (like everyone should know)

Not everyone plays comp...

[Schizoman]

Originally posted by The Fact Core:

Originally posted by eggs d:

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While I do agree he's very easy on pubs etc, he's not so strong in comp (like everyone should know)

Not everyone plays comp...

And? What does that have to do with anything.

[Emurinus]

Originally posted by Harmless:

Soldier is easy in casual mode where there are 12 morons to splash dmg and you have random crits.

Hard as hell in comp where there are more good scouts denying you and its more pick/1v1 oriented

With how Scout's been dominating both pubs and comp it's likely that he'll be getting ner- balances shortly after the class packs.