Team Fortress 2
Fists of steel > Gloves of running urgently (G.R.U)
WARNING!!!: This thread contains a biased opinion. If you are that person that strongly disagrees with it and decides to say very rude comments, just don't. Everyone has an opinion, you just don't have to be a ♥♥♥♥ about it.

I'm here to explain why I think the Fists of steel are greater than the G.R.U. While both are great tools for Heavy and each has 1 use, the GRU gets Heavy to the forntlines faster, and the Fists of steel have you resist ranged attacks. Both arn't really used to be weapons, but to be fair, the Fists of steel are a better 'weapon' rather than the GRU. The GRU makes it so that when you have it out, you take 35% more damage and it has a damage penalty. The Fists of steel on the other hand make it so that you resist any ranged damage like bullets, rockets, pipes, flames, etc. At the cost of a slower deploy time and a vulnerability to melee. Everyone has their prefrences and maybe you charish the GRU more than the Fists of steel, and thats fine. By no means is the GRU terrible, it's stats just make it underwhelming to the Fists of steel.

Do you agree or disagree? Maybe submit extra points I didn't mention or didn;t think of. Don't be a ♥♥♥♥ about it though.
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aught Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:18pm 
FOS>Eviction notice>GRU
SolNestra Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:18pm 
When wearing a FOS, expect the entire enemy team to face their melee to your face.
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Dominic Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:19pm 
I disagree with both items. Did everyone forget about the Killing gloves of Boxing and the Heavies fist?

Years ago a lot of Heavies wore the killing gloves of boxing. five second crits with shotguns are nice.
Originally posted by Boi:
This thread contains a biased opinion

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Smugleaf Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:24pm 
They're both relatively decent melees that serve very different, yet useful purposes, so you can't truly state that one of them is outright better than the other.

Originally posted by Dominic:
I disagree with both items. Did everyone forget about the Killing gloves of Boxing and the Heavies fist?

Years ago a lot of Heavies wore the killing gloves of boxing. five second crits with shotguns are nice.

Years ago, depending on how long ago you're talking about, the KGB was perhaps used often because it was the only heavy melee unlock to exist. Once the GRU was added, there wasn't any reason to use the KGB when playing seriously, since even assuming that the heavy was using the Shotgun seriously in the first place, you have to get a melee kill in order to gain crits, which would be quite rare to obtain when fighting against enemies who aren't terrible due to reasons that should be obvious.
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Dominic Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Smugleaf:
They're both relatively decent melees that serve very different, yet useful purposes, so you can't truly state that one of them is outright better than the other.

Originally posted by Dominic:
I disagree with both items. Did everyone forget about the Killing gloves of Boxing and the Heavies fist?

Years ago a lot of Heavies wore the killing gloves of boxing. five second crits with shotguns are nice.

Years ago, the KGB was perhaps used often because it was the only heavy melee unlock to exist. Once the GRU was added, there wasn't any reason to use the KGB when playing seriously, since even assuming that the heavy was using the Shotgun seriously in the first place, you have to get a melee kill in order to gain crits, which would be quite rare to obtain when fighting against enemies who aren't terrible due to reasons that should be obvious.
I still find it pretty good. I mostly play on Capture the flag though so the whole game mode and map design may make it better for that mode.
Sox Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:29pm 
U didn't really have your reasons why. U just kinda said. "I think FOS is better than GRU, because I think it's worth it" usually a weapon is better if it is used better in the most situations you are in. I don't mind that u like FOS. Just provide multiple reasons next time
Smugleaf Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Dominic:
I still find it pretty good. I mostly play on Capture the flag though so the whole game mode and map design may make it better for that mode.

If the map is full of enclosed spaces, the KGB would likely be more useful than it would usually be, but I can't see how the game mode would actually affect anything. Still, it pales in comparison to the more useful melees that the heavy has.
Emurinus Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:49pm 
FoS are beast on long and/or majorly open maps that support sniping (Doublecross, Harvest, Upward, etc)

GRU's ok for certain maps that are somewhat small but open enough to manuever (For example, Barnblitz).

Eviction Notice is best on tight maps like 2Fort or if used indoors.
Bunker Junker Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:51pm 
I prefer the stock fist over all melees. :^)
Originally posted by Dominic:
I disagree with both items. Did everyone forget about the Killing gloves of Boxing and the Heavies fist?

Years ago a lot of Heavies wore the killing gloves of boxing. five second crits with shotguns are nice.
Aaand VALVe never got around to nerfing it.
NRC at LEAST
This is common sense
. . Nov 29, 2016 @ 3:04pm 
Having an opinion is fine, but you sort of just said the stats and that you think it's better without explaining why.
Cee Nov 29, 2016 @ 3:09pm 
EN > FOS > GRU
Plazy Nov 29, 2016 @ 3:14pm 
Personal preference is never a bad thing. If you're ok with the weapon you're using, then use it.
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Date Posted: Nov 29, 2016 @ 2:16pm
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