Why does valve nerf the spy?

[Elllll]

There's just no need to, and every nerf just makes the class as a whole less and less fun to play.
For example:

People complained about the spycicle/DR combo being OP, so the spycicle got a slight nerf. Fair enough, because the combo made you near-invincible.
But then valve decides to listen to all the people moaning that 'oh its still op why does the weakest class in the game have a survival option'. I mean, its not like pretty much every class can hard counter him with sufficient awareness, my goodness no.
So now the DR gets a nerf, because its unfair to expect people to actually TRY to beat a spy player.
Then the YER gets nerfed, making it all-round crappier at doing its actual job (infiltration). I don't even see the point of this nerf, and here's why.
1: Nobody cares about the YER being used. Literally nobody. It's the hardest spy weapon to use properly due to its unique feature and wasn't all that hard to counter
2: Someone is probably now going to say 'oh but this makes it easier to use' or somethign along those lines. But thats just rubbish. The whole point of the weapon is to be high risk high reward, and now its just high risk, no reward.

Oh and the ambassadoor has been nerfed. You know that problem that NOBODY CARED ABOUT? You know, how you can use your pistol to do not a whole lot of damage if you can aim on the tiny head of the other player? Unacceptable. How dare you attempt to be 'good' or 'enraging', that isn't the point of the spy at all.

My problems:
Spy is the weakest class (survivability-wise) due to his godawful direct damage and the fact that every class either has a weapon which makes you visible OR a spray 'n' pray weapon that can be used to track the cloaked spy. Thus the DR/spycicle combo is very useful as it allows you to play more agressively and not get screwed ovr by the slightest mistake. But now thats been massively nerfed, all-round making the spy much less fun to play that way.

All the spy's unique weapons, the DR, ambassador and YER especially, are being slowly made more like normal pistols or knives, or flat-out nerfed in the case of the DR. MEANWHILE, the pyro is now super mobile and damaging and the demo can become a melee fanatic.Notice the difference here?

EDIT:Spy is meant to be enraging. That's kind of the point, jut like the pyro's supposed to be terrifying to new players. But valve has decided we can't have that, so it starts nerfing all the things that do engrage people. Engraging people and making them paranoid, by the way, is probably one of the spy's most important effects to the game.

Any attempt by anyone to point out these issues is met with 'oh but spy is OP' 'oh but spy is stealthy not agressive', which seem to me to be complaints made by people utterly new to the game. Yet valve constantly panders to these moronss by nerfing the spy.

TL:DR Stop nerfing the spy. It's unecessary and damaging to the overall game.

[SweetAce]

Gabe N.'s favorite class is no longer the spy

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

There is a difference between OP and annoying/broken

Just because the class is weakest does not mean they cannot nerf dumb/broken unlocks. Spy was extremely annoying with hi free jailcard DR and Sniper Amby.

[Bunker Junker]

Becuz sphee is op!

[Elllll]

Originally posted by Hermann von Salsa:

There is a difference between OP and annoying/broken

Just because the class is weakest does not mean they cannot nerf dumb/broken unlocks. Spy was extremely annoying with hi free jailcard DR and Sniper Amby.

Amby is only a sniper if you practise with it, since it doesn't have a scope.
DR is easily countered by predicting where the spy will go, which is VERY easy to do unless the player is quite skilled.

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

Oh and the ambassadoor has been nerfed. You know that problem that NOBODY CARED ABOUT? You know, how you can use your pistol to do not a whole lot of damage if you can aim on the tiny head of the other player? Unacceptable. How dare you attempt to be 'good' or 'enraging', that isn't the point of the spy at all.

Amby made Sniper a Sniper with ability to tank damage (Old DR) and Spy was used as secondary Spy for many HL teams pre-update.

[•͜•]

Git gud and use the stock loadout?

[Elllll]

Originally posted by Generic jerry | #tf2SP:

Git gud and use the stock loadout?

My loadout is spycicle, stock everything else.

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

Originally posted by Telf:

Amby is only a sniper if you practise with it, since it doesn't have a scope.

It did take practice, sure, but that does not unvalidate what I said. Stealth should not be able to do 102 across a map.

DR is easily countered by predicting where the spy will go, which is VERY easy to do unless the player is quite skilled.

Speed boost, being able to tank a lot damage + you can spam it from ammo pacls made it a free jailcard for bad Spies who did not know how to position themselves properly.

[Seren]

Originally posted by Hermann von Salsa:

Spy was used as secondary Spy.

What

[Pootis17]

Look at Delfy new WTF moment in last part he shows why DR got nerfed

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

The point of nerfs were to encourage intended Spy play of getting behind, positioining properly + telling the enemies' position to own team, not to be secondary Sniper or go for bad plays and get away with it via DR

[Bunker Junker]

Originally posted by UnofficialAether:

Originally posted by Hermann von Salsa:

Spy was used as secondary Spy.

What

I think he meant gunspy, basically being another Sniper with the old Amby.

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

Originally posted by UnofficialAether:

What

In certain HL teams, people used Gunspy, which is basically Spy but uses Amby as primary.

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

I got ninja'd

[Seren]

Originally posted by Bunker Junker:

Originally posted by UnofficialAether:

What

I think he meant gunspy, basically being another Sniper with the old Amby.

Originally posted by Hermann von Salsa:

Originally posted by UnofficialAether:

What

In certain HL teams, people used Gunspy, which is basically Spy but uses Amby as primary.

Oh, I read it wrong, whoops