Sigafoo Save...

[Zuko]

I know this was patched a while ago, so it's not really relevant anymore, but I did hear the name brought up recently and got me thinking again.

I can't be the only one bugged by this, but well before the rescue ranger was even a thing, I always used the wrangler's shield in combination with my wrench in a similar fashion to the Sigafoo Save, and I can't be the only one who did this. It was very effective in holding ground against ubered Heavies.

Then some random guy comes along and throws the rescue ranger into the equation and slaps their name on it like it's some brand new, original concept. Am I the only one who's kind of annoyed by this?

[Doehardt]

Originally posted by Spooko:

I know this was patched a while ago, so it's not really relevant anymore, but I did hear the name brought up recently and got me thinking again.

I can't be the only one bugged by this, but well before the rescue ranger was even a thing, I always used the wrangler's shield in combination with my wrench in a similar fashion to the Sigafoo Save, and I can't be the only one who did this. It was very effective in holding ground against ubered Heavies.

Then some random guy comes along and throws the rescue ranger into the equation and slaps their name on it like it's some brand new, original concept. Am I the only one who's kind of annoyed by this?

Unlike everyone else sigafoo used said technique in highlander casted matches and was notorious for his proficiency of it, thus dubbing it the sigafoo save.

The difference between you and him is fame and level of play.

[GhastlyGhostJr]

Why are you annoyed?

If you wanted your name on it you could of tried to publicize it.

[Zuko]

Originally posted by GhastlyGhostJr:

Why are you annoyed?

If you wanted your name on it you could of tried to publicize it.

It's not that I want my name on it in the least. Why? Because it wasn't an original technique.

It's like if a group of people found that doing a headstand can cure cancer, and some guy barges in and says that if you rub your balls while doing a headstand it will cure cancer, then they slap his name on it as if he made some big discovery.

Level of fame and how proficient the person is with it doesn't make it any less fact that the Sigafoo Save was just a small variation of a technique that people had been doing in the game for ages. And that is what bugs me. I don't need my name on an existing technique because I like to think I'm not a pretentious little ♥♥♥♥ lol.

[GhastlyGhostJr]

Originally posted by Spooko:

Originally posted by GhastlyGhostJr:

Why are you annoyed?

If you wanted your name on it you could of tried to publicize it.

It's not that I want my name on it in the least. Why? Because it wasn't an original technique.

It's like if a group of people found that doing a headstand can cure cancer, and some guy barges in and says that if you rub your balls while doing a headstand it will cure cancer, then they slap his name on it as if he made some big discovery.

Level of fame and how proficient the person is with it doesn't make it any less fact that the Sigafoo Save was just a small variation of a technique that people had been doing in the game for ages. And that is what bugs me. I don't need my name on an existing technique because I like to think I'm not a pretentious little ♥♥♥♥ lol.

You seem quite annoyed over a very small matter. It's not like money was even involved here.

[Zuko]

Originally posted by GhastlyGhostJr:

You seem quite annoyed over a very small matter. It's not like money was even involved here.

Like I said in the OP, it's not super relevant anymore. It's more of a minor annoyance that just sort of makes me roll my eyes.

[Chinaball]

It's dead.

[Zuko]

Originally posted by Chinaball:

It's dead.

If you actually read, I acknowledge that in literally the first sentence. That isn't the point of this thread...

[Valorghost]

Originally posted by Sgt Doe Crits:

Originally posted by Spooko:

I know this was patched a while ago, so it's not really relevant anymore, but I did hear the name brought up recently and got me thinking again.

I can't be the only one bugged by this, but well before the rescue ranger was even a thing, I always used the wrangler's shield in combination with my wrench in a similar fashion to the Sigafoo Save, and I can't be the only one who did this. It was very effective in holding ground against ubered Heavies.

Then some random guy comes along and throws the rescue ranger into the equation and slaps their name on it like it's some brand new, original concept. Am I the only one who's kind of annoyed by this?

Unlike everyone else sigafoo used said technique in highlander casted matches and was notorious for his proficiency of it, thus dubbing it the sigafoo save.

The difference between you and him is fame and level of play.

Why should fame or level of play matter? Just because he was efficient with said concept in a competetive game, doesn't mean it should be branded with his name.

I was effiecient with the back burner in a not cringy way, doesn't mean Ima just go. Oh it's now the Valorghost Back Burner technique. Because any idiot can use a concept on any level of play regardless of fame.

[Vlad the Impala]

It's not like sigafoo even named it for himself, he just pulled it off in a high-stakes last point hold on barnblitz and got highly publicized for it.

[Chinaball]

Originally posted by Spooko:

Originally posted by Chinaball:

It's dead.

If you actually read, I acknowledge that in literally the first sentence. That isn't the point of this thread...

Why are you still angry with it? Steve jobs didn't design the iPhone. He still famous. Who are you to criticise the usage of this term when the actual origin of thos technique is unknown. Stop being annoyed at such a minor detail long obsolete.

[Chinaball]

Originally posted by Clive Palmer's Tim Tams:

It's not like sigafoo even named it for himself, he just pulled it off in a high-stakes last point hold on barnblitz and got highly publicized for it.

Exactly. He didn't say it was his technique. He just used it.

[Pakaku]

Originally posted by Spooko:

Then some random guy comes along and throws the rescue ranger into the equation and slaps their name on it like it's some brand new, original concept.

New weapon, "new" concept

And yes, I hate the RR as well.

[Stellar Fox]

Ok.

[bender bending rodríguez]

what the heck even is the sigafoo save? i know its been nerfed and ive seen clips of an engineer defending his nest against an ubered heavy, but like what did you have to do and why was it op? (also, when was it able to be used so i can look at the weapon stats in that tipe period). Thanks!

[Doehardt]

Originally posted by Shinobi:

what the heck even is the sigafoo save? i know its been nerfed and ive seen clips of an engineer defending his nest against an ubered heavy, but like what did you have to do and why was it op? (also, when was it able to be used so i can look at the weapon stats in that tipe period). Thanks!

Hi Shinobi, let me explain what the original Sigafoo Save was about.

As the name suggests, the Sigafoo Save was a technique by a high-level Highlander Engineer player named "Sigafoo" who more or less came up with this technique.

The technique was possible when the Wrangler used to not decrease healing to your buildings by the same 66% of the damage reduction they have when the shield is deployed. Additionally it was the most reliable when the Rescue Ranger bolts didn't cost metal per shot for repairing buildings. The technique completely mitigated a point-blank Heavy's minigun and worked like this:

Wrangler -> 2-3 RR bolt -> Wrangler refresh -> 1-2 RR bolt -> Wrangler -> 2-3 Wrench Hit -> Wrangler -> 2-3 Wrench Hit -> Wrangler

This allowed an Engineer to tank their gun against an übered point-blank heavy and kill them after the Übercharge fades.

Today you incorporate similar playstyles if you intend to keep a Lv3 Sentry alive for extended periods of time, but now the gun can't get healed as much and essentially is a 648HP turret that can be slowly whittled down until the Engineer is out of resources.