Is 'WM1' really a bad thing?

[Honey Badger]

Hear me out.

Pyro is a close quaters clase, his whole job really is to get right up to people and burn them alive

Now yes, doing it when the enemy is on the other side of the map, I can agree with being stupid and retarded

But when you're up close, is WM1 really a bad thing?

Or are people just salty?

[TheZipBon]

Originally posted by Honey Badger:

But when you're up close, is WM1 really a bad thing?

Nope, it can be even a better option than airblast → secondary, depending on the situation.

[cake. 🎃]

Salty
Thata the way pyro was built and people wont accept it.

[El Duderino]

W+M1 is really useless against players with more than half a neuron. People just hate it because it doesn't take much skill to do and can be effective against bad players.

[Krinkov]

It's more likely to just get the Pyro killed.

[King Narwhal]

The thing is, people get salty over getting killed by a Pyro because they allowed him to get too close in the first place. If you die to W+M1, that's your own fault for dropping your guard so low that a Pyro managed to get past your team and sneak up on you in the first place. Besides, if they're truly doing W+M1, you should easily be able to backpedal and shoot to kill them.

Another argument is that it takes no skill to do. Hate to break it to you, but W+M1 is also the primary job of Scout (but with a few jumps occasionally), Soldier, and Heavy. As with all of the classes where this is a thing, that's just the skill floor. People dub Pyro the noob class because it actually tells more about themself when a W+M1 Pyro kills them as it's an easy tactic to counter, due to it being the skill floor of half the classes in the game.

Pyro isn't entirely a "noob easy skill-less class for noobs". Some of those high-level Pyro mains I swear have Airblast Aimbot of some sort, as they can reflect literally anything. Sucks when you're a Medic, fire a Crossbow bolt, and right as it's about to save your Demoman, a Pyro jumps in the way and reflects it into your own face. The only thing I can argue about Pyro that is actually for noobs is the Phlog (outside of MvM), as the lack of airblast means that any Soldier or Demo can tear you apart.

[El Duderino]

My sentiments exactly.

Originally posted by Captain Narwhal:

The thing is, people get salty over getting killed by a Pyro because they allowed him to get too close in the first place. If you die to W+M1, that's your own fault for dropping your guard so low that a Pyro managed to get past your team and sneak up on you in the first place. Besides, if they're truly doing W+M1, you should easily be able to backpedal and shoot to kill them.