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thern Aug 7, 2017 @ 12:36pm
Is there a better alternative to MGE?
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MGE in a nutshell:
"DEMO IS M1 M2"
"Here, let me sit back and spam rockets at you instead of jumping you, No, just because in a real game I wouldn't accomplish anything doesn't mean I'm bad"
Scouts jumping constantly at long range while spamming you with the pistol.
"ur trash"

Demoman in mge is a nightmare, and yes, demoman dm helps you hit shots in real games, people will tell you everything they can to convicne you otherwise. yes, I'm a demomain, no, this is my alternate account. No, :salt: has nothing to do with this. I know DM servers exist but they're far and few, if they are filled, they're defenitly filled, and demo is limited to 1 so it's impossible for me to play him. Tf2center is cancer, pugchamp is an invite circlejerk, mixchamp is inactive, freakpugs is cancer, etc etc- So is there any alternative way to improve DM/Gamesense as a demoman other than mge/pugs? My current team scrims like four times a week but I don't feel that it's enough.
Last edited by thern; Aug 7, 2017 @ 12:39pm
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thern Aug 7, 2017 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by GhastlyGhostJr:
Originally posted by Vythern lfp silver Lf scrims:

what's the point of playing mge if I'm not playing against scouts? Soldier has just as much favour to him because he can rocket jump.
Classes aren't the issue, people playing gay are.
Then play with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ teammates or friends.
Because my team is literally never in the mood to play mge. They'd rather go on a 60 killstreak on a casual server instead.
this is copied and pasted from something I posted less than a minute ago.
GhastlyGhostJr Aug 7, 2017 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by slop:
Originally posted by GhastlyGhostJr:
Regardless if scouts are the issue, don't play against scouts
tell that to the people who counterclass the second they die twice in a row
summer/weekend mge sucks

op's gotta find some good dm or dm-style servers, or a good time to pub on 5cp when the not-trash players are on
i remember there being this pretty sick quake map dm server, but all that ♥♥♥♥ is probably dead these days

Why can't OP play against their teammates?? Or friends??
GhastlyGhostJr Aug 7, 2017 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by Vythern lfp silver Lf scrims:
Originally posted by GhastlyGhostJr:
Then play with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ teammates or friends.
Because my team is literally never in the mood to play mge. They'd rather go on a 60 killstreak on a casual server instead.
this is copied and pasted from something I posted less than a minute ago.

So you don't have a single friend who can help you by playing mge?
Jacky Aug 7, 2017 @ 12:56pm 
Playing MGE all the time won't give you advantages over other players, you can still be destroyed by a random in a casual match and that is a fact so deal with it
Originally posted by Vythern lfp silver Lf scrims:
Originally posted by StinkyWinky:
Playing the game. I find MGE mindless and dull meant only for the rabid comp players.

Deciphering OP's babbling it seems he's bitter about people trashing/making fun of him on MGE.
Basically saying the community stinks. As if we don't already know that.

"Suck it up."
I literally couldn't care less if people make fun of you. I asked if there was an alternative to MGE, it's not that difficult to understand. 90% of the time I'm winning the matches in mge regardless, but it doesn't change the fact that playing gay won't help either party improve.
I heard of a thing called soap dm. I dont know If its what you're looking for. Also no need to be toxic
GhastlyGhostJr Aug 7, 2017 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by Jack:
Playing MGE all the time won't give you advantages over other players, you can still be destroyed by a random in a casual match and that is a fact so deal with it
???
Op is trying to get better DM for competitive.
Cee Aug 7, 2017 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by StinkyWinky:
Playing the game. I find MGE mindless and dull meant only for the rabid comp players.

Deciphering OP's babbling it seems he's bitter about people trashing/making fun of him on MGE.
Basically saying the community stinks. As if we don't already know that.

"Suck it up."
Doehardt Aug 7, 2017 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by Vythern lfp silver Lf scrims:
Stickies being a nogo is a retarted statement. Do you want me to gimp myself and not use my primary weapon? Sucking it up means letting scouts and soldiers spam me dealing low damage chip shots while as in a real game, I'd have a med to run back to.

Originally posted by slop:
who the ♥♥♥♥ mges without stickies
pills vs adad is like throwing your time in the trashcan
The point of doing MGE in the first place is improving your DM capability.

While it is true that you should mostly do it with your primary weapon (and the SB Launcher being the actual primary of Demoman), it makes no sense to train with stickies when you need to use them 9/10 times differently in actual 6v6 games. You learn using and aiming stickybombs the best by training it in actual fights / matches or by practicing bomb deployment on an empty map.

MGE Demoman is mostly utilized to improve your Grenade Launcher DM as it is your primary option to defend yourself against incoming targets. In MGE, you will mostly encounter Soldiers and Scouts rushing at you, so working on your Grenade Launcher aim makes more sense. With this you also learn not to shoot your damn thing dry instantly and rather put your pills to good use.

An exception would be if the opposing Soldier is a di** and camps on a spot while spamming down rockets permanently. Airdet dat sticky right in his face and tell him to f*** off if he continues just camping and spamming in MGE.

MGE is aim / DM training. If you play MGE mainly to win by any means possible, you are technically not learning anything from it.

Also @Vythern, if Scouts and Soldiers just do chip shots and spam on you, don't fight them - they don't want to improve, they only want to improve their Elo and win.
Jacky Aug 7, 2017 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by GhastlyGhostJr:
Originally posted by Jack:
Playing MGE all the time won't give you advantages over other players, you can still be destroyed by a random in a casual match and that is a fact so deal with it
???
Op is trying to get better DM for competitive.
There is a thing called scrimming and it's not our problem that his teammates are not helping him improve
Luna Chungus Aug 7, 2017 @ 1:16pm 
MGE?
Galactic Yoshi Aug 7, 2017 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by Thicc Cuddly Senpai:
MGE?
Basically 1v1
Originally posted by Sgt Doe Crits:
Originally posted by Vythern lfp silver Lf scrims:
Stickies being a nogo is a retarted statement. Do you want me to gimp myself and not use my primary weapon? Sucking it up means letting scouts and soldiers spam me dealing low damage chip shots while as in a real game, I'd have a med to run back to.

Originally posted by slop:
who the ♥♥♥♥ mges without stickies
pills vs adad is like throwing your time in the trashcan
The point of doing MGE in the first place is improving your DM capability.

While it is true that you should mostly do it with your primary weapon (and the SB Launcher being the actual primary of Demoman), it makes no sense to train with stickies when you need to use them 9/10 times differently in actual 6v6 games. You learn using and aiming stickybombs the best by training it in actual fights / matches or by practicing bomb deployment on an empty map.

MGE Demoman is mostly utilized to improve your Grenade Launcher DM as it is your primary option to defend yourself against incoming targets. In MGE, you will mostly encounter Soldiers and Scouts rushing at you, so working on your Grenade Launcher aim makes more sense. With this you also learn not to shoot your damn thing dry instantly and rather put your pills to good use.

An exception would be if the opposing Soldier is a di** and camps on a spot while spamming down rockets permanently. Airdet dat sticky right in his face and tell him to f*** off if he continues just camping and spamming in MGE.

MGE is aim / DM training. If you play MGE mainly to win by any means possible, you are technically not learning anything from it.

Also @Vythern, if Scouts and Soldiers just do chip shots and spam on you, don't fight them - they don't want to improve, they only want to improve their Elo and win.
This right here is poetry.

To add on to this, Demoman (With the exception of Medic) is the worst 1v1 class in 6's. If you are in a real scrim 1v1 and your opponent lets you whittle them down with stickies, then they are just bad players. Good scouts and soldiers will close the distance fast to remove your advantage, which is why the Grenade Launcher is a good 1v1 weapon for self-defense. You are 1v1ing soldiers and scouts, and just like in a real game, stickies won't cut it when fighting TF2's DM expert classes.

If they are spamming you or whittling you down from range in MGE, that isn't what will happen in 6's so it is a poor practice format. If they close the distance like what will happen in a real scrim, then grenade launcher aim would be more applicable.

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