Why do people hate the Dead Ringer?

[Ketsedo]

I mean i dont like it too, but some people talk about it as if it were the antichrist. :U

[communism will win]

It's a crutch for bad Spies and annoying to play against.

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

I've never had problem to deal with them since it's obvious when it's a fake death, easy to predict where Spy is going to escape and thanks to nerf they're easier to kill

I think the reason for people whining about Dead Ringer is because of the same reason why people whine about pretty much all unlocks: they don't know how to counter them properly.

[Azelinuu]

Originally posted by BurnCastle:

I've never had problem to deal with them since it's obvious when it's a fake death, easy to predict where Spy is going to escape and thanks to nerf they're easier to kill

I think the reason for people whining about Dead Ringer is because of the same reason why people whine about pretty much all unlocks: they don't know how to counter them properly.

Spycycle + DR.

Tell me how please.

[MrComp]

I only find it annoying when experienced spies use it.
Because it makes it more difficult to completely kill them, and if your team isn't very spy-aware it will cripple your push or defence.

Buuuut it's not as annoying as experienced snipers.

[Rosvo-Rolle lft 6s]

Originally posted by Azelidood:

Originally posted by BurnCastle:

I've never had problem to deal with them since it's obvious when it's a fake death, easy to predict where Spy is going to escape and thanks to nerf they're easier to kill

I think the reason for people whining about Dead Ringer is because of the same reason why people whine about pretty much all unlocks: they don't know how to counter them properly.

Spycycle + DR.

Tell me how please.

Explosives, airblasting and tracking.

[Emurinus]

Against new players, it's only annoying when they pair it with the Spycicle.

Against good Spies, you'll get pissed often even if they don't use it too often.

[fnu#]

it's a laughably effective, easy and overused "m2 to get out of trouble"-option.

the sad part is, it's not even used for faking death.
it's used for making you unblinkingly invisible, fireproof, and faster than a scout, with a damage resistance strong enough to safely tank 200+ damage.

[Tchélvis Podre]

Originally posted by Time to deliver a pizza ball!:

It's a crutch for Spies. A good Spy should know how to escape dangers, mainly through means of using the revolver.

The Invis Watch was made to go behind enemy lines without being detected. Cloak and Dagger (if used properly) can allow you to set up for a chain stab, it combos really well with the YER. The downside is that you cannot travel far distances without stopping for a bit.

The Dead Ringer does none of those, and basically lets you get out of jail free.

[brokenphilip]

Because they're too dumb to counter it. That's how all weapon hating starts.

Except for the Black Box. That ♥♥♥♥ is just, ♥♥♥♥ no.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Crutch implies it less useful for somone who is good, which is what your are complaining about.

Words have meaning and all.A tf2 example would largely be the liberty launcher, becus its worse for somone whos good but easier to hit with.

[Guns4Hire]

People mostly call it (Break the jail free card)

[Pakaku]

It feels like a personal insult on my pride when Spies won't give me the benefit of a proper fight. They don't bother trying because oh just feign death and try again. It never gets anywhere, it doesn't make me paranoid, and they aren't accomplishing anything. It's just mindless repetitive feign-triggering and just ends up a waste of time.

[Guwahavel]

Originally posted by Azelidood:

Originally posted by BurnCastle:

I've never had problem to deal with them since it's obvious when it's a fake death, easy to predict where Spy is going to escape and thanks to nerf they're easier to kill

I think the reason for people whining about Dead Ringer is because of the same reason why people whine about pretty much all unlocks: they don't know how to counter them properly.

Spycycle + DR.

Tell me how please.

Use Mad Milk or Jarate if you really can't pin him down. (Coming from a spy main)

[Guwahavel]

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Crutch implies it less useful for somone who is good, which is what your are complaining about.

Words have meaning and all.A tf2 example would largely be the liberty launcher, becus its worse for somone whos good but easier to hit with.

Um... the Liberty Launcher is trash.

[Chinaball]

Originally posted by DoesOverwatchTriggerYou?:

Originally posted by 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃:

Crutch implies it less useful for somone who is good, which is what your are complaining about.

Words have meaning and all.A tf2 example would largely be the liberty launcher, becus its worse for somone whos good but easier to hit with.

Um... the Liberty Launcher is trash.

Triggered robzeawsum fans


I think the deadringer is effective in the hands of good spies, but is basically trash for crappy spies running around pressing m2. And whats annoying are the f2p going rage pyro yet still getting killed