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Why does this still in beta game need EAC
There's not really progression except in 12 worlds that are not made by the devs
even if so eac was added so long ago before people made a save system and for what flying ?

the only way i can say this game needs one if it has vpn built in other wise pointless security
Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:
Originally posted by Yurei:
title: "Why does this still in beta game need EAC "There's not really progression except in 12 worlds that are not made by the devs
even if so eac was added so long ago before people made a save system and for what flying ?

the only way i can say this game needs one if it has vpn built in other wise pointless security
to protect profits. the micro transactions where easily unlocked with out paying. proof? VCC was introduced shortly after EAC.

EAC does nothing for the modified client users if they use the right tools (or wrong however you look at it)
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He says she says is all you probably gonna get for answer. In my case, it was there because people acting upon themselves to "fix" the game at the cost of others comfort. Some admit, most don't.

So EAC happens. Let there be finger pointing. The rest is history.
Last edited by N.GinWorks; Apr 19 @ 3:14am
Paws Ch. Apr 19 @ 8:58am 
Because there is a bunch of content in the game made by people that were being stolen like crazy. If you like it or hate it, EAC made ripping a hell of a lot harder and made the community better as a whole.
Bahamut Apr 19 @ 11:12am 
It's about people bypassing VRC+, not cheating in game worlds.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Originally posted by Yurei:
title: "Why does this still in beta game need EAC "There's not really progression except in 12 worlds that are not made by the devs
even if so eac was added so long ago before people made a save system and for what flying ?

the only way i can say this game needs one if it has vpn built in other wise pointless security
to protect profits. the micro transactions where easily unlocked with out paying. proof? VCC was introduced shortly after EAC.

EAC does nothing for the modified client users if they use the right tools (or wrong however you look at it)
Yurei Apr 19 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:
Originally posted by Yurei:
title: "Why does this still in beta game need EAC "There's not really progression except in 12 worlds that are not made by the devs
even if so eac was added so long ago before people made a save system and for what flying ?

the only way i can say this game needs one if it has vpn built in other wise pointless security
to protect profits. the micro transactions where easily unlocked with out paying. proof? VCC was introduced shortly after EAC.

EAC does nothing for the modified client users if they use the right tools (or wrong however you look at it)

So 2020 they started in the background adding plus it wasn't pushed I never saw emails or ads back then after 2021 I took a long break 2022 is when they added it and fully put + on the foreground so its to manage it way for micro-transactions to keep its game placement fee on steam and other platforms makes sense. I'm just mad they chose the one that was notorious for being called spyware.
Originally posted by Paws Ch.:
Because there is a bunch of content in the game made by people that were being stolen like crazy. If you like it or hate it, EAC made ripping a hell of a lot harder and made the community better as a whole.
womp womp
Yurei Apr 20 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Paws Ch.:
Because there is a bunch of content in the game made by people that were being stolen like crazy. If you like it or hate it, EAC made ripping a hell of a lot harder and made the community better as a whole.

severe doubt i got my answer but to put it bluntly if that was the case you think big companies like nintendo would threaten to sue this small company out of business with that logic
EAC was introduced for the wrong priorities it seems
Draaloff Apr 21 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by N.GinWorks:
In my case, it was there because people acting upon themselves to "fix" the game at the cost of others comfort. Some admit, most don't.
This is exactly it. EAC heavily reduced the use of unofficial clients, which were always against the TOS. Said clients could be used to completely ruin the intended functioning of worlds and worsen performance, which I personally experienced before EAC was added.

Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:
to protect profits. the micro transactions where easily unlocked with out paying. proof? VCC was introduced shortly after EAC.
This is false. VRC+ predates EAC by around a year and a half:
2020, Nov 20: VRChat Plus added (SOURCE)
2022, Jul 25: Easy Anti-Cheat added (SOURCE)[hello.vrchat.com]
Originally posted by Draaloff:
Originally posted by N.GinWorks:
In my case, it was there because people acting upon themselves to "fix" the game at the cost of others comfort. Some admit, most don't.
This is exactly it. EAC heavily reduced the use of unofficial clients, which were always against the TOS. Said clients could be used to completely ruin the intended functioning of worlds and worsen performance, which I personally experienced before EAC was added.

Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:
to protect profits. the micro transactions where easily unlocked with out paying. proof? VCC was introduced shortly after EAC.
This is false. VRC+ predates EAC by around a year and a half:
2020, Nov 20: VRChat Plus added (SOURCE)
2022, Jul 25: Easy Anti-Cheat added (SOURCE)[hello.vrchat.com]
i said VCC, the micro transactions, not VRC+ nice misrepresentation though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93QzjnVf9g
Last edited by Maneki_Neko; Apr 21 @ 3:19pm
Draaloff Apr 21 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:
i said VCC, the micro transactions, not VRC+ nice misrepresentation though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93QzjnVf9g
My apologies; I've never used credits and forget they are a thing.
Using your linked video as reference, there's still almost a year between the two:
2022, Jul 25: Easy Anti-Cheat
2023, May 18: Credits
Ch'Ih-Yu Apr 21 @ 3:31pm 
The question implicates a fundamental misunderstanding of what "cheats" (and VPNs) actually are and about the problems which EAC is attempting to mitigate.

VRChat itself is not even really a game. Yes, it's on Steam which is a digital store front mostly for computer games, but VRChat is really a social platform.

Some world creators use it to build mini games, some of which are actually really good, especially given the limitations of building a game inside another "game". But this isn't what defines VRChat. VRChat is all about socializing with people all over the world.

Easy Anti Cheat is a way for game developers to protect their platform from malicious actors by leveraging the expertise of Epic Games, the creators of EAC, who happen to have a lot more experience in fighting hacks and cheats than most small game studios do.

It is not there to prevent people from cheating in Idle Cube or anything like that. It is there so that the VRChat development team doesn't have to keep up with the endless stream of malware being released all the time which can just hook into games and cause all sorts of havoc.

It is not a silver bullet that "fixes everything", like crasher avatars for example. It's an "easy to add" (hence the name, I guess) countermeasure which makes hacking just a little harder so that not just anybody with a beginners level understanding of programming can just mess around with the game as they please.

And this is also why you find EAC everywhere these days. Creating hacks and cheats has turned into it's own business. Terrible people are willing to pay money to ruin other's online experience. You cannot reasonably expect every single multiplayer game developer, especially the small studios with limited budged and expertise, to keep on top of an entire industry of cheat developers.

And finally, a VPN does very little for security. Don't believe all the marketing nonsense the VPN companies throw at you. All a VPN does is route all your Internet traffic over their servers and while that "hides" your real IP address which adds a tiny layer of privacy, chances are that you are on social media and using a mobile device with a Google or Apple operating system.

And that means that most of your online activities are being tracked anyways, because these big corporations are embedded almost everywhere online and they already know who you are before you even get to start up your VPN software. They are selling you a fake feeling of privacy with their cute little green "protected" checkmarks and all that nonsense, but all it takes is one friend or relative saying "yes" when an app asks to allow access to their address book and you immediately have an "advertising profile" with that company, without your consent.
Draaloff Apr 21 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by Ch'Ih-Yu:
It is not a silver bullet that "fixes everything", like crasher avatars for example. It's an "easy to add" (hence the name, I guess) countermeasure which makes hacking just a little harder so that not just anybody with a beginners level understanding of programming can just mess around with the game as they please.
Great write-up. The more malicious uses of unofficial clients and tools were definitely part of why EAC was added in. It's hardly perfect, but it prevents the casual use of those tools.
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