Age Verification won't help nor will it fix anything.

[ChaosSwarm]

like lets take me for example will i be able to go to 18+ worlds and join 18+groups...No cause of my contract i have with my job. So that means due to the my circumstances i am barred from hanging out with other adults and forced to be around children. Yeah no. Not going to sit here, be quiet and let the Devs make another brainlet decision fueled by money.

also the thing to fix the pedo problem in VRC is simple make the game 18+ and start banning all the children. But the devs don't want to do that since children inflate the games numbers and makes the game look more popular.
Snd pedos will see kids without the 18+ symbol on their nametags and it will make them easier to target instead of sifting through people trying to figure out a target which gives them more time to ♥♥♥♥ up and get caught.

i find that funny how every time VRC devs tries to "Protect the children" or "To keep children out of adult spaces" they end up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up and makes it easier for pedos to target them.

When it comes to the service they are using to do the Age Verification I have done my own research to find out it is not secure at all. The service they are planning on using gets hacked quite often and they only find out about months later so do you really trust a company that can't secure your data and VRC Devs when asked about said company pretty much say "Trust me bro". No. No you really shouldn't
its like come on.

People need to start critically thinking about this instead of going "*clap clap clap* Oh yes Age Verification will fix all our problems *clap clap clap*"

[capybaras are cool]

Origineel geplaatst door Your_White_Knight:

Origineel geplaatst door Julmara:

wonder how they will enforce that
i mean if its the same as in steam where a 7 year old can just put in hes 200 years old
wont do much lol

You have to sign in with Persona

It's not just put in an age

It's using your government issued ID ( drivers licence ) and a video of your face for them to take the front and left / right sides of

Basically enough to ID you anywhere in the world for any reason

you put on a headset that constantly tracks your face and eyes and youre worried about a third party getting your facial information. the ship has sailed my friend

[Your_White_Knight]

Origineel geplaatst door capybaras are cool:

Origineel geplaatst door Your_White_Knight:

You have to sign in with Persona

It's not just put in an age

It's using your government issued ID ( drivers licence ) and a video of your face for them to take the front and left / right sides of

Basically enough to ID you anywhere in the world for any reason

you put on a headset that constantly tracks your face and eyes and youre worried about a third party getting your facial information. the ship has sailed my friend

A: no I'm desktop
B: not just tracking, PHOTOS, it's not looking at your movement it's photos of you
C: You ignored giving away your ID information

My goodness kids these days have no clue at all do you

[~$$~ BlackCatTheGreat]

Of you're that paranoid, you've been flagged on many security cameras already, and any face id unlock for any device you've used has already given your face away to people.

[capybaras are cool]

Origineel geplaatst door Your_White_Knight:

Origineel geplaatst door capybaras are cool:

you put on a headset that constantly tracks your face and eyes and youre worried about a third party getting your facial information. the ship has sailed my friend

A: no I'm desktop
B: not just tracking, PHOTOS, it's not looking at your movement it's photos of you
C: You ignored giving away your ID information

My goodness kids these days have no clue at all do you

im just sayin. if they want that info then theyre gonna get it.

[artimid]

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

Origineel geplaatst door artimid:

I also won't be doing it due to not wanting some random company to forever keep my entire proof of existence on their servers

Your information is deleted as soon as it has been processed and replaced with a hash (which cannot be reversed to get the original information):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzG9IwmM7TI
https://ask.vrchat.com/t/age-verification-faq/28458

Origineel geplaatst door artimid:

I looked and found zero evidence of data breaches for this service. Since 'I did my own research' was tossed around a lot by wack jobs who just made things up because science angered them, I always have to question this.

This single case is all I could find, and it appears to have been resolved in Persona's favour:
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/il-court-of-appeals/116477461.html
https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/665658052-plaintiffs-accuse-persona-identities-inc-an-identity-verification-service-provider-of-illegally-using-personal-data

Thank you for the info on that case. Looks like that wasn't a breach so much as someone upset they are using data to train their AI (a concern, but much less of one).

For the data storage, I'm glad for that change. For others: "VRChat securely processes this information into a hash, and saves the hash. We then destroy the source data, and tell Persona to destroy their version of the data, too. This ensures that while we can verify your identity when needed, your sensitive personal information is never saved in any systems for longer than necessary."

Previously they reported that Persona kept the data forever until we asked them to remove it, which then removed our verification status... because asking a third party company NOT to keep our data on hand meant we were no longer an adult (or that others could reuse it, but still). In that case, I might end up allowing this to happen on my account. I'll still need to consider it, but this is a big step forward. I don't really ever go into adult spaces but I don't like having doors closed to me. Pretty sure I learned that from my dogs.