Age verification behind paywall is good, think about it.

[Knifingdragon]

this is actually a good feature to make it vrc+ only. think about it, how many times you encounter a troll and or underage kid being racist or super inappropriate? especially in recent months with the growth of YouTube rage batting trolls such as proximity chat. think about it, you think kids and trolls and harassers who get banned all the time that make a new account will keep paying 10$ a month to get into 18+ worlds and groups on every account they make? most of these trolls are just kids with no money so we will see LESS trolls in AGE VERIFIED group instances and worlds. until vrc does something to inform people that a player is recording in a instance or targets local IPs of recently banned accounts or thoes who made many accounts in a short amount of time in the same network and put thoes people instantly at nuisance rank to warn people that this is common user who trolls and records without consent. Think about it, this is a good way to START finding and keeping trolls and kids away.

[Kiraiya]

The hash data of your verification is staying linked to your account, so when making a new account, you may not be verified again using the same document.

[Maneki_Neko]

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/age-verification-faq/28458

Can I use the same ID to verify multiple accounts?

At this time, no, you cannot verify multiple accounts using the same ID. Once an ID has been used to verify one VRChat account, it cannot be used to verify other accounts (alts).

We believe the benefits of locking IDs to a single account greatly outweigh the costs. To sum them up:

Increased trustworthiness of Age Verified Accounts
Greatly reduced potential for fraud and abuse
Reduced access to Age Verified instances for malicious users
Increased account value, which dissuades malicious behavior
Reduced implementation, maintenance, and complexity

When we receive verification from Persona, they send us some information gathered from your ID. This information is never saved, only processed.

VRChat securely processes this information into a hash, and saves the hash. We then destroy the source data, and tell Persona to destroy their version of the data, too. This ensures that while we can verify your identity when needed, your sensitive personal information is never saved in any systems for longer than necessary.

TL:DR you can use an ID once, for one account only, get banned the ID is also banned, you can never use it to verify another account ever again.

are there ways around it? probably. will kids be likely to figure um out? doubtful.

[404]

Originally posted by Knifingdragon:

this is actually a good feature to make it vrc+ only. think about it, how many times you encounter a troll and or underage kid being racist or super inappropriate? especially in recent months with the growth of YouTube rage batting trolls such as proximity chat. think about it, you think kids and trolls and harassers who get banned all the time that make a new account will keep paying 10$ a month to get into 18+ worlds and groups on every account they make? most of these trolls are just kids with no money so we will see LESS trolls in AGE VERIFIED group instances and worlds. until vrc does something to inform people that a player is recording in a instance or targets local IPs of recently banned accounts or thoes who made many accounts in a short amount of time in the same network and put thoes people instantly at nuisance rank to warn people that this is common user who trolls and records without consent. Think about it, this is a good way to START finding and keeping trolls and kids away.

I have a better idea All uploads of avatars and worlds you have to pay a fee to be available

[ChaosSwarm]

Originally posted by 404:

Originally posted by Knifingdragon:

this is actually a good feature to make it vrc+ only. think about it, how many times you encounter a troll and or underage kid being racist or super inappropriate? especially in recent months with the growth of YouTube rage batting trolls such as proximity chat. think about it, you think kids and trolls and harassers who get banned all the time that make a new account will keep paying 10$ a month to get into 18+ worlds and groups on every account they make? most of these trolls are just kids with no money so we will see LESS trolls in AGE VERIFIED group instances and worlds. until vrc does something to inform people that a player is recording in a instance or targets local IPs of recently banned accounts or thoes who made many accounts in a short amount of time in the same network and put thoes people instantly at nuisance rank to warn people that this is common user who trolls and records without consent. Think about it, this is a good way to START finding and keeping trolls and kids away.

I have a better idea All uploads of avatars and worlds you have to pay a fee to be available

stupid take

[VibuTV]

Originally posted by 404:

Originally posted by Knifingdragon:

this is actually a good feature to make it vrc+ only. think about it, how many times you encounter a troll and or underage kid being racist or super inappropriate? especially in recent months with the growth of YouTube rage batting trolls such as proximity chat. think about it, you think kids and trolls and harassers who get banned all the time that make a new account will keep paying 10$ a month to get into 18+ worlds and groups on every account they make? most of these trolls are just kids with no money so we will see LESS trolls in AGE VERIFIED group instances and worlds. until vrc does something to inform people that a player is recording in a instance or targets local IPs of recently banned accounts or thoes who made many accounts in a short amount of time in the same network and put thoes people instantly at nuisance rank to warn people that this is common user who trolls and records without consent. Think about it, this is a good way to START finding and keeping trolls and kids away.

I have a better idea All uploads of avatars and worlds you have to pay a fee to be available

If they did this then it would lose nearly all creators

[N.GinWorks]

You had good point. But having been living for two digit of age has taught me...

When person get petty, they will do whatever you think they won't do just for bitter comeback, guarantee. 10 bucks is chump change to some people especially streamer type. People can be crazy like that.

[76561199794413092]

Originally posted by Knifingdragon:

this is actually a good feature to make it vrc+ only. think about it, how many times you encounter a troll and or underage kid being racist or super inappropriate? especially in recent months with the growth of YouTube rage batting trolls such as proximity chat. think about it, you think kids and trolls and harassers who get banned all the time that make a new account will keep paying 10$ a month to get into 18+ worlds and groups on every account they make? most of these trolls are just kids with no money so we will see LESS trolls in AGE VERIFIED group instances and worlds. until vrc does something to inform people that a player is recording in a instance or targets local IPs of recently banned accounts or thoes who made many accounts in a short amount of time in the same network and put thoes people instantly at nuisance rank to warn people that this is common user who trolls and records without consent. Think about it, this is a good way to START finding and keeping trolls and kids away.

I am not a Troll kid I am 31 years old who cannot pay monthly sub so please make age verificcation free!

[ynstynct]

Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/age-verification-faq/28458

Can I use the same ID to verify multiple accounts?

At this time, no, you cannot verify multiple accounts using the same ID. Once an ID has been used to verify one VRChat account, it cannot be used to verify other accounts (alts).

We believe the benefits of locking IDs to a single account greatly outweigh the costs. To sum them up:

Increased trustworthiness of Age Verified Accounts
Greatly reduced potential for fraud and abuse
Reduced access to Age Verified instances for malicious users
Increased account value, which dissuades malicious behavior
Reduced implementation, maintenance, and complexity

When we receive verification from Persona, they send us some information gathered from your ID. This information is never saved, only processed.

VRChat securely processes this information into a hash, and saves the hash. We then destroy the source data, and tell Persona to destroy their version of the data, too. This ensures that while we can verify your identity when needed, your sensitive personal information is never saved in any systems for longer than necessary.

TL:DR you can use an ID once, for one account only, get banned the ID is also banned, you can never use it to verify another account ever again.

are there ways around it? probably. will kids be likely to figure um out? doubtful.

wrong u can ID with the same ID even when banned on a new account

[N.GinWorks]

Originally posted by xx:

Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/age-verification-faq/28458




TL:DR you can use an ID once, for one account only, get banned the ID is also banned, you can never use it to verify another account ever again.

are there ways around it? probably. will kids be likely to figure um out? doubtful.

wrong u can ID with the same ID even when banned on a new account

Pretty much

VRC is not a Bank or government. They don't have that kind of resource to detect multiple usage of ID. Not sure about the Persona side of things though.

[Maneki_Neko]

Originally posted by N.GinWorks:

Originally posted by xx:

wrong u can ID with the same ID even when banned on a new account

Pretty much

VRC is not a Bank or government. They don't have that kind of resource to detect multiple usage of ID. Not sure about the Persona side of things though.

you 2 better tell vrc they are wrong then because accoding to them you 2 are blowin smoke
https://ask.vrchat.com/t/age-verification-faq/28458

[Yu Ryujin]

Originally posted by Knifingdragon:

this is actually a good feature to make it vrc+ only. think about it, how many times you encounter a troll and or underage kid being racist or super inappropriate? especially in recent months with the growth of YouTube rage batting trolls such as proximity chat. think about it, you think kids and trolls and harassers who get banned all the time that make a new account will keep paying 10$ a month to get into 18+ worlds and groups on every account they make? most of these trolls are just kids with no money so we will see LESS trolls in AGE VERIFIED group instances and worlds. until vrc does something to inform people that a player is recording in a instance or targets local IPs of recently banned accounts or thoes who made many accounts in a short amount of time in the same network and put thoes people instantly at nuisance rank to warn people that this is common user who trolls and records without consent. Think about it, this is a good way to START finding and keeping trolls and kids away.

If Age verif was made with STEAM and paywalled, id buy it.

Shady stuffs? gtfo don't need dirty shady things

[Zitti413]

my only gripe is that i cant get 18+ verified if i dont pay for the subscription which kind of blows. ive been on the fence about buying the subscription because besides the age verification, idk the real point to it if i dont use a ton of avatars and such.

[BloodStar]

op im gonna be real with you for a minute, i get where youre coming from but your points dont really make a whole lot of sense when you realize people can still troll despite having that 18+ tag. putting what should be a basic feature behind a paywall is incredibly dumb and shady. i'd rather pay a one time fee instead of $10 a month to have a tag on my profile. if groups require age verification to join in the first place including worlds, kids and trolls who dont have the tag wont be able to join anyway, so whats the point in paywalling it?

[Maneki_Neko]

Originally posted by BloodStar:

(...) i'd rather pay a one time fee instead of $10 a month to have a tag on my profile. (...)

its literally 1 month, $10, get age verified, then cancel, the tag remains.

If my VRC+ subscription expires, will my Age Verification status change?

Age Verification is permanent even if your VRC+ subscription ends.

source: https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/age-verification

[warfield]

Originally posted by Maneki_Neko:

Originally posted by BloodStar:

(...) i'd rather pay a one time fee instead of $10 a month to have a tag on my profile. (...)

its literally 1 month, $10, get age verified, then cancel, the tag remains.

If my VRC+ subscription expires, will my Age Verification status change?

Age Verification is permanent even if your VRC+ subscription ends.

source: https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/age-verification

some of us refuse give money to vrc. puting it behind paywall is dumb.