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kittyxscratch Nov 23, 2023 @ 10:39am
VRChat Privacy Policy, ETC is further DOWNHILL
This is just an extra punch by VRChat to show it does NOT care about US.
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Oddbase Nov 23, 2023 @ 2:25pm 
who is "us"
CosmicBit Nov 23, 2023 @ 3:38pm 
Cool, go play chillout vr then. im sure they could use the players
L U N N A Nov 23, 2023 @ 5:59pm 
I agree. There will be no personal life. No privacy. It's sad because I live in this world. There's a lot I want to discuss with my friends, but now I have to filter what I say. Even in the private world. (Sorry for my English, it's not my native language)
kittyxscratch Nov 23, 2023 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by L U N N A:
I agree. There will be no personal life. No privacy. It's sad because I live in this world. There's a lot I want to discuss with my friends, but now I have to filter what I say. Even in the private world. (Sorry for my English, it's not my native language)

Unless you're breaking TOS and get reported you're probably fine.

And for people who are breaking TOS and even if they do get reported, they probably won't have action taken against them (I've heard and seen trolls who have been reported with proof and nothing was done about it)

If you're following TOS, you're probably fine... If you record 1 million people and have 100 people to view them, most people aren't going or be paid attention to...

Seems it's your base information that you provide or whatever analytical information they can get I guess... If they are selling your information it's purely for profit I would assume.

It has something about tracking your eyes and stuff like that... So I don't think they really care so much about who you talk to and stuff.
Yu Ryujin Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:07pm 
Originally posted by kittyxscratch:
Originally posted by L U N N A:
I agree. There will be no personal life. No privacy. It's sad because I live in this world. There's a lot I want to discuss with my friends, but now I have to filter what I say. Even in the private world. (Sorry for my English, it's not my native language)

Unless you're breaking TOS and get reported you're probably fine.

And for people who are breaking TOS and even if they do get reported, they probably won't have action taken against them (I've heard and seen trolls who have been reported with proof and nothing was done about it)

If you're following TOS, you're probably fine... If you record 1 million people and have 100 people to view them, most people aren't going or be paid attention to...

Seems it's your base information that you provide or whatever analytical information they can get I guess... If they are selling your information it's purely for profit I would assume.

It has something about tracking your eyes and stuff like that... So I don't think they really care so much about who you talk to and stuff.
it isnt basic info, its actually a full fledged out ID profile based on yourself, what you say and do, and what you do in other apps too. Right now, everything that you say can be recorded for some dark reasons and be sold to other third parties, until the fix this... or change.
There is no safe or friendly private, place. Private and public lobbies alike.

they do not only keep it to themself if what they say in paper is true, and we do not know who can have our data, when, or how much.

People should really read the ToS and Eula, its really crazy rn

I wanted to try my new vr set but I wont be doing it in vr chat until this get fixed or changed, what they're trying to do is ilegal in some countries.
Last edited by Yu Ryujin; Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:09pm
N a v y 3 0 0 1 Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:26pm 
Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:
Originally posted by kittyxscratch:

Unless you're breaking TOS and get reported you're probably fine.

And for people who are breaking TOS and even if they do get reported, they probably won't have action taken against them (I've heard and seen trolls who have been reported with proof and nothing was done about it)

If you're following TOS, you're probably fine... If you record 1 million people and have 100 people to view them, most people aren't going or be paid attention to...

Seems it's your base information that you provide or whatever analytical information they can get I guess... If they are selling your information it's purely for profit I would assume.

It has something about tracking your eyes and stuff like that... So I don't think they really care so much about who you talk to and stuff.
it isnt basic info, its actually a full fledged out ID profile based on yourself, what you say and do, and what you do in other apps too. Right now, everything that you say can be recorded for some dark reasons and be sold to other third parties, until the fix this... or change.
There is no safe or friendly private, place. Private and public lobbies alike.

they do not only keep it to themself if what they say in paper is true, and we do not know who can have our data, when, or how much.

People should really read the ToS and Eula, its really crazy rn

I wanted to try my new vr set but I wont be doing it in vr chat until this get fixed or changed, what they're trying to do is ilegal in some countries.

could try out Resonite, someone is helping me atm getting my avatar into the game, and it is just...crazy! Like i saw someone spawn in a mech hop into it and walked off! Resonite has vehicals you can use anywhere! You can also save items you find in worlds and use them anywhere and all the servers are P2P, a player makes a server as the host, so something like what VRC is doing cant be done in Resonite.
kittyxscratch Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:
Originally posted by kittyxscratch:

Unless you're breaking TOS and get reported you're probably fine.

And for people who are breaking TOS and even if they do get reported, they probably won't have action taken against them (I've heard and seen trolls who have been reported with proof and nothing was done about it)

If you're following TOS, you're probably fine... If you record 1 million people and have 100 people to view them, most people aren't going or be paid attention to...

Seems it's your base information that you provide or whatever analytical information they can get I guess... If they are selling your information it's purely for profit I would assume.

It has something about tracking your eyes and stuff like that... So I don't think they really care so much about who you talk to and stuff.
it isnt basic info, its actually a full fledged out ID profile based on yourself, what you say and do, and what you do in other apps too. Right now, everything that you say can be recorded for some dark reasons and be sold to other third parties, until the fix this... or change.
There is no safe or friendly private, place. Private and public lobbies alike.

they do not only keep it to themself if what they say in paper is true, and we do not know who can have our data, when, or how much.

People should really read the ToS and Eula, its really crazy rn

I wanted to try my new vr set but I wont be doing it in vr chat until this get fixed or changed, what they're trying to do is ilegal in some countries.

I suppose they can use AI Overlords to keep all this recording and do whatever with it....

.... I would say I'm not so concerned but I also know our world is just so evil so whatever....
Yu Ryujin Nov 23, 2023 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by kittyxscratch:
Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:
it isnt basic info, its actually a full fledged out ID profile based on yourself, what you say and do, and what you do in other apps too. Right now, everything that you say can be recorded for some dark reasons and be sold to other third parties, until the fix this... or change.
There is no safe or friendly private, place. Private and public lobbies alike.

they do not only keep it to themself if what they say in paper is true, and we do not know who can have our data, when, or how much.

People should really read the ToS and Eula, its really crazy rn

I wanted to try my new vr set but I wont be doing it in vr chat until this get fixed or changed, what they're trying to do is ilegal in some countries.

I suppose they can use AI Overlords to keep all this recording and do whatever with it....

.... I would say I'm not so concerned but I also know our world is just so evil so whatever....
Nah, my world is pretty fine and kind. I avoid bad ♥♥♥♥ tho



Originally posted by N a v y 3 0 0 1:
Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:
it isnt basic info, its actually a full fledged out ID profile based on yourself, what you say and do, and what you do in other apps too. Right now, everything that you say can be recorded for some dark reasons and be sold to other third parties, until the fix this... or change.
There is no safe or friendly private, place. Private and public lobbies alike.

they do not only keep it to themself if what they say in paper is true, and we do not know who can have our data, when, or how much.

People should really read the ToS and Eula, its really crazy rn

I wanted to try my new vr set but I wont be doing it in vr chat until this get fixed or changed, what they're trying to do is ilegal in some countries.

could try out Resonite, someone is helping me atm getting my avatar into the game, and it is just...crazy! Like i saw someone spawn in a mech hop into it and walked off! Resonite has vehicals you can use anywhere! You can also save items you find in worlds and use them anywhere and all the servers are P2P, a player makes a server as the host, so something like what VRC is doing cant be done in Resonite.
unprotected P2P can be really dangerous tho. Especially in a social platform.
N a v y 3 0 0 1 Nov 24, 2023 @ 5:01am 
im pretty sure its protected
[] Nov 25, 2023 @ 11:09am 
I believe the furries and erp community is what keeps the game alive anymore, even if "tos" is broken just grab vrc+ for a get out of jail free card
kittyxscratch Nov 25, 2023 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by billy:
I believe the furries and erp community is what keeps the game alive anymore, even if "tos" is broken just grab vrc+ for a get out of jail free card

I don't see anything wrong with someone wearing a furry avatar...

... I have seen people brag that VRC+ keeps them from getting banned and these trolls don't seem to get banned. Unfortunate.

___

I have bought people VRC+ before as a gift but after these updates I probably won't do that anymore.
Last edited by kittyxscratch; Nov 25, 2023 @ 11:15am
Zero Nov 25, 2023 @ 1:44pm 
I don't understand why they are doing this, This will give them more problems than it is worth!
As a EU citizen they cannot gather personal information about me unless it is relevant for the service they offer or if they have legal grounds for collecting this data.
As I am not a criminal they don't have a legal reason and their services do not require them to gather this info!
Also Non-EU based companies processing EU citizen's data need to appoint a representative in the EU, If they have not done this it will get them in big trouble!
We also have the right to request the data, have it removed and request who they are sharing this data with.

Anyway there are so many rules that I cannot understand why VRChat would even want to go into this legal mess, It will only hurt their company more and cost them ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if they don't abide by EU laws

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Spelling error lol
Last edited by Zero; Nov 25, 2023 @ 1:46pm
cat Nov 25, 2023 @ 2:43pm 
wait what did they change ?
they now take personal info like what ?
Flame Soulis Nov 25, 2023 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by billy:
I believe the furries and erp community is what keeps the game alive anymore, even if "tos" is broken just grab vrc+ for a get out of jail free card

Uh... same thing in Resonite.

Difference is that ERP is okay there, but technically not with VRC. No subscriptions needed or questionable TOS, either.
Originally posted by cat:
wait what did they change ?
they now take personal info like what ?
People don't understand how to read a TOS as usual
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