VRChat
Yslith Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:29am
VRChat Alternatives
Since we're all jumping ship, anyone got any alternatives? I hear NeosVR is pretty good!
Originally posted by 🦖🦕🦎☣:
guys i think i'm gonna do it. i'm gonna jump ship to outside
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MrFox Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:32am 
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no one is jumping ship... what are you talking about?
I never used a modded client so i never had any issues. Its all the modded people who are leaving, all the quest and vanilla users are staying
CVR and NVR are no where neer ready for so many people.
Originally posted by Woodzy:
no one is jumping ship... what are you talking about?
Speak for yourself.
🦖🦕🦎☣ Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by Woodzy:
no one is jumping ship... what are you talking about?
who is this no one and why are there so many of him on this forum and recent reviews?
Tiny Plume Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:50am 
NeosVR is more for power users, you can pretty much do anything within the game itself.
It had quite a learning curve if you wanna go there for more than just chatting, but seems incredibly powerful.

ChilloutVR is pretty much VRChat, but with most of the QoL mods people were using already implemented, and with MUCH better performance. Currently lacks scripting though so worlds are a bit limited in what they can do. It also isn't perfect yet, nor as good as VRChat on some regards.
They're in the process of upgrading their infrastructure to accommodate to all the newcomers they're getting, so their servers are having some issues at the moment.

Both are good and worth it.
BluePrince21 Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:53am 
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I wonder if, instead of abandoning vrchat, people were to come up with solutions to present to the devs? I'm very confused about the community after the update. They say they care about the game, but are willing to tank the reviews and fill the forums with conspiracies and intimidation tactics. Where do we actually stand?
Tiny Plume Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by BluePrince21:
I wonder if, instead of abandoning vrchat, people were to come up with solutions to present to the devs? I'm very confused about the community after the update. They say they care about the game, but are willing to tank the reviews and fill the forums with conspiracies and intimidation tactics. Where do we actually stand?

The problem is that the devs had talk with mod authors in the past, and solutions were suggested by mod authors. But the devs suddenly did a U-Turn, banned them, announced EAC.
BluePrince21 Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:57am 
I see. So then, just to be clear, the entire community is abandoning this game? No hope at all?
Originally posted by 🦖🦕🦎☣:
Originally posted by Woodzy:
no one is jumping ship... what are you talking about?
who is this no one and why are there so many of him on this forum and recent reviews?
are these "no ones" in the room with us right now?
Fenpai~ Jul 28, 2022 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by BluePrince21:
I wonder if, instead of abandoning vrchat, people were to come up with solutions to present to the devs? I'm very confused about the community after the update. They say they care about the game, but are willing to tank the reviews and fill the forums with conspiracies and intimidation tactics. Where do we actually stand?
We've literally gave them suggestions. Such as not implementing EAC on a SOCIAL INTERACTION GAME. What do we need anti cheat for? What are people CHEATING to WIN in a SOCIAL INTERACTION GAME?! EAC doesn't stop the malicious mod users, only those who were using open source, quality of life modifications be either to improve performance, protections against crasher clients/avatars, or for disability purposes. Them saying they'll add some of those in the coming weeks means nothing, as the dev team is KNOWN to promise features and not follow through for a long time.

VRchat is dying after this update. They have successfully alienated a large portion of their player base, 25% of the reviews are now negative. Twenty. five. percent.
🦖🦕🦎☣ Jul 28, 2022 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by BluePrince21:
I wonder if, instead of abandoning vrchat, people were to come up with solutions to present to the devs?

Originally posted by VRChat Inc.:
we hear you and see you saying that many of the modified client features that are being lost due to this are extremely important to you, or in some cases allow you to use VRChat at all

Originally posted by VRChat Inc.:
we are going to be releasing this update, and we do not have plans or intent to revert or roll it back.

It's almost as if we did that already.
BluePrince21 Jul 28, 2022 @ 7:01am 
Then what shall we do? Move to another vr game?
Tiny Plume Jul 28, 2022 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by BluePrince21:
I see. So then, just to be clear, the entire community is abandoning this game? No hope at all?

As much as I hate EAC and the way devs are treating us...
The reality is that most of the people who says they're leaving will eventually come back if they have any friends or attachments to VRChat. Its community won't die like that. VRChat is still the leader in term of sheer content, and still the most known VR Social platform.

With some luck though, some people will actually stay away from VRC, and it'll give a second breath to VRChat's concurrency, ultimately making all of VR Social platforms better.
BluePrince21 Jul 28, 2022 @ 7:04am 
Originally posted by Tiny Plume:
Originally posted by BluePrince21:
I see. So then, just to be clear, the entire community is abandoning this game? No hope at all?

As much as I hate EAC and the way devs are treating us...
The reality is that most of the people who says they're leaving will eventually come back if they have any friends or attachments to VRChat. Its community won't die like that. VRChat is still the leader in term of sheer content, and still the most known VR Social platform.

With some luck though, some people will actually stay away from VRC, and it'll give a second breath to VRChat's concurrency, ultimately making all of VR Social platforms better.

I agree with this sentiment. I appreciate the well thought out response in light of the recent issues. I do hope the devs fix what is broken in time (since it won't be immediate). Hopefully this will help them see the impact even more than in past events.
pokebro2000 Jul 28, 2022 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by Tiny Plume:
Originally posted by BluePrince21:
I see. So then, just to be clear, the entire community is abandoning this game? No hope at all?

As much as I hate EAC and the way devs are treating us...
The reality is that most of the people who says they're leaving will eventually come back if they have any friends or attachments to VRChat. Its community won't die like that. VRChat is still the leader in term of sheer content, and still the most known VR Social platform.

With some luck though, some people will actually stay away from VRC, and it'll give a second breath to VRChat's concurrency, ultimately making all of VR Social platforms better.
Lots will probably be coming back, but I have zero ties to VRChat, so i'm one of the few that are definitely jumping ship. If nothing else, this has raised awareness that alternatives that aren't facebook exist, which regardless of events I am grateful for
rats Jul 28, 2022 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by BluePrince21:
Then what shall we do? Move to another vr game?
yes

popular options are neos (which has a ton of features, but a bit confusing at first because you can basically do anything) and chilloutvr (a lot like VRChat with quality of life mods, but doesn’t have as much content yet)
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