I would actually buy VRC+ if it weren't reoccurring payments.

[Melia]

Honestly, it being $10 a month is the biggest scam. The only reason I would even want to buy this is for the avatar limit. But $10 A MONTH is ridiculous. The other features are super minor and only for rich users who want to brag rather than actual quality of life benefits.

I'm just saying, VRChat would actually make soooooooo much more money if they made it a one time $10 payment for the avatar limit. I could not give two ♥♥♥♥♥ about photo invites or changing my icon. And it's hilarious that they really try to go "oh what a deal!" with the discount if you get it annually. High way robbery.

[Shadowbrodie]

I mean, the main reason for VRC+ is to help with server costs and other things, a 1 time payment doesn't do that, lol. Same reason why the big MMOs make you pay a subscription to play.

[teal]

Makes me kinda wonder how difficult it might be to host a server for VRC

[Nova]

it is not at all worth it at its current state only thing i want from it is the badge

[Wolf]

Originally posted by Teal Tactics:

Makes me kinda wonder how difficult it might be to host a server for VRC

They have millions of $ from Facebook, HTC and other brands. So it's so stupid to make a 10$ monthly sub.

[Bunkerotter]

Originally posted by Wolf:

Originally posted by Teal Tactics:

Makes me kinda wonder how difficult it might be to host a server for VRC

They have millions of $ from Facebook, HTC and other brands. So it's so stupid to make a 10$ monthly sub.

Yes, they got millions of Dollars, from _investors_. Some of which years ago. Investors invest money because they expect a return, and not only that, also a profit. Investments are not donations.

A lot of people just don't get this fact.

And as Shadowbrowdie pointed out, VRC+ is about supporting the plattform, not paying for some features. The VRC+ features are just goodies.

Maybe think about some triple A title, that you paid 60 or even 80 or 90 bucks for, and think about how much time you spent playing that (I for example played Mass Effect 1, 2 & 3 with all DLCs, took me about 80h, awesome game/story btw.).
Now compare that with people who played VRChat for thousands of hours, without paying anything for it.
I'm a VRC+ user, as I love the plattform, and I love spending time on it and meet people. So I support it.

And btw. you are not required to get VRC+ ;)

PS: you can get it cheaper if you pay for a year (:

PPS: I don't know for how long you are on the Plattform, but since they introduced VRC+, they got quite a few more developers and releasing more and bigger updates and bugs get fixed faster. Just FYI.

[Melia]

Originally posted by Bunkerotter:

Originally posted by Wolf:

They have millions of $ from Facebook, HTC and other brands. So it's so stupid to make a 10$ monthly sub.

Yes, they got millions of Dollars, from _investors_. Some of which years ago. Investors invest money because they expect a return, and not only that, also a profit. Investments are not donations.

A lot of people just don't get this fact.

And as Shadowbrowdie pointed out, VRC+ is about supporting the plattform, not paying for some features. The VRC+ features are just goodies.

Maybe think about some triple A title, that you paid 60 or even 80 or 90 bucks for, and think about how much time you spent playing that (I for example played Mass Effect 1, 2 & 3 with all DLCs, took me about 80h, awesome game/story btw.).
Now compare that with people who played VRChat for thousands of hours, without paying anything for it.
I'm a VRC+ user, as I love the plattform, and I love spending time on it and meet people. So I support it.

And btw. you are not required to get VRC+ ;)

PS: you can get it cheaper if you pay for a year (:

PPS: I don't know for how long you are on the Plattform, but since they introduced VRC+, they got quite a few more developers and releasing more and bigger updates and bugs get fixed faster. Just FYI.

If it's for supporting the devs, I can sorta understand. That being said, it's still a scummy business practice to lock more avatar slots behind a paywall and then shove it in your face in the UI. If this is meant for only supporting the devs, there should be tiers. $5 a month, $10 a month, so on.

If it were $5 a month and I got the avatar limit increased, I'd be perfectly fine with paying for it. I'd get the yearly because that'd be so much more manageable to afford. Whereas, $10 is way too much, it adds up. And yearly is still $100. That's more than what I pay for Nintendo Switch Online, PS Plus, PS Now, EA Play, Streaming Services, etc. There's no doubt this is not consumer friendly.

It is something that is minor at the end of the day but still irritating nonetheless when the UI mocks me. Now if it had more features, I'd consider it. Such as an avatar search, that'll show you which worlds specified avatars are in. Or a proper screenshot mode, that allows you to pause the screen and move the camera around.

It's like Nitro for me, where I thought it was a scam but now they actually added plenty to the service to warrant me paying for it. Same case for here, if the devs want support for adding minor things, then add even more worthwhile yet minor things. It wouldn't be much on their part while at least making it more worth it for the player. Justify the price.

[Arvo the Blue Jay]

I personally look at it as something like an MMO subscription. I also want to support the platform, especially given the amount of time I spend on it. It costs money to run a platform like this and if they can't get some sort of funding from their user base, they'd have to get money from other sources such as advertisements.

Also the funding helps them hire more developers to work on the game, add improvements, and patch things faster.

[✭]

vrchat plus should be a one time purchase i agree

[VerrucktMedic]

VRC+ isn't supposed to be for your benefits really. It's more about support for the game. That's why nothing that it offers is all that spectacular or game changing.

[Mimi]

Originally posted by Melia:

Honestly, it being $10 a month is the biggest scam. The only reason I would even want to buy this is for the avatar limit. But $10 A MONTH is ridiculous. The other features are super minor and only for rich users who want to brag rather than actual quality of life benefits.

I'm just saying, VRChat would actually make soooooooo much more money if they made it a one time $10 payment for the avatar limit. I could not give two ♥♥♥♥♥ about photo invites or changing my icon. And it's hilarious that they really try to go "oh what a deal!" with the discount if you get it annually. High way robbery.

you can actually upload unlimited of you own avatars! personally I love vrc+ for the icon and custom social image. never really use the public avatars part of it