Anyone play VR chat with a headset on linux?

[lavendvr]

I've been using linux a lot more, its a duel boot system so if it doesn't work on linux its not the end of the world but im trying to use linux as much as a can and fill the holes that linux cant fill with the windows boot.

I got vr chat running normally on linux, everything works like its meant to but i was more wondering if the VR headsets work with linux, honestly ill never get full body tracking so it would just be arms and head.

any experience with linux and VR?

[Squid]

Any native Steam VR compatible headset will work with Linux out of the box (HTC Vive series, Valve Index). I also use Linux but there are too many drawbacks when using VRChat in Proton that I personally opt to do all of my VR gaming in virtual machines.

[lavendvr]

Escrito originalmente por Squid:

Any native Steam VR compatible headset will work with Linux out of the box (HTC Vive series, Valve Index). I also use Linux but there are too many drawbacks when using VRChat in Proton that I personally opt to do all of my VR gaming in virtual machines.

If you don’t mind me asking what are the major draw backs?

I’m really new to Linux I tried to set up a VM and do a GPU pass through but I broke my entire OS and my GPU just stopped working so….. duel boot it is.

[Mio Rin]

Escrito originalmente por CHOWWDDAAHHHH:

If you don’t mind me asking what are the major draw backs?

No motion smoothing (gives double vision when it kicks in) and broken video players are the biggest issues on Proton VRChat for me.

[Squid]

Not to mention that VRChat uses DirectX on windows, so there is also the CPU overhead of having to run DXVK to convert the draw calls as well.

[lavendvr]

Also I still cant manage to set up a VM, the skill set feels way above my head and the fact you need two GPU's to do a GPU pass through is just way WAYYYY out of my budget.

Just dont like the idea of needing to switch back and forth from Linux to windows, feel like it would kill my work flow, sure it could be done but keep in mind im used to using only windows for EVERYTHING!!!! 6-7 years of pc gaming all on windows.

[Squid]

Many people who use VMs will actually use their CPUs integrated GPU when in Linux, which leaves the dedicated GPU open to pass through to the VM. Honeslty though dual booting does the same thing in a slightly messier flow so long as you don't mind rebooting to access each OS. It's also much easier. Take Linux slow and ease into it if you're new. Majority of the concepts of Windows don't apply to Linux so I'd avoid diving into more complicated things like VMs and stuff too early anyways. I'm just an enthusiast and like virtualizing/containerizing stuff.

[lavendvr]

Escrito originalmente por Squid:

Many people who use VMs will actually use their CPUs integrated GPU when in Linux, which leaves the dedicated GPU open to pass through to the VM. Honeslty though dual booting does the same thing in a slightly messier flow so long as you don't mind rebooting to access each OS. It's also much easier. Take Linux slow and ease into it if you're new. Majority of the concepts of Windows don't apply to Linux so I'd avoid diving into more complicated things like VMs and stuff too early anyways. I'm just an enthusiast and like virtualizing/containerizing stuff.

I feel like I’m not smart enough for VM’s, I tried to do it and broke my boot so badly I had to reinstall my OS.

I feel like maybe I rushed into Linux to hard, I mean I like it don’t get me wrong but I hit my knowable limits really really fast

[Squid]

Oh yeah, that'll happen when transitioning to a new OS. While some stuff is familiar, you need to keep in mind that Linux is not more or less difficult than Windows, it's just very very different and takes time to understand what's going on in the system like a Windows user does in a Windows environment. A neat channel I frequent called The Linux Experiment recently published a little video about common mistakes users make when transitioning over, maybe it'll help ease stuff a little!

https://youtu.be/o2vkgVZvkVQ

[lavendvr]

Escrito originalmente por Squid:

Oh yeah, that'll happen when transitioning to a new OS. While some stuff is familiar, you need to keep in mind that Linux is not more or less difficult than Windows, it's just very very different and takes time to understand what's going on in the system like a Windows user does in a Windows environment. A neat channel I frequent called The Linux Experiment recently published a little video about common mistakes users make when transitioning over, maybe it'll help ease stuff a little!

https://youtu.be/o2vkgVZvkVQ

My main reason for trying out Linux was for privacy, but I feel like this day in age.

Privacy = Sacrifices

I'm trying to find out if dual booting a Linux and Windows machine is just doing more harm then good cause in the end of the day I'm just treating Linux as if its windows its just I'm missing out on certain programs on features (that I may never even use or get its just the fact I (cant) is a little frustrating vr being one of those things)

I started doing Linux for security and privacy reasons but as I've heard from a lot of other privacy minded people if you use big name apps like Discord, Steam and still are using google dominated services like gmail you aren't being SUPER private.

But I guess at least not having windows tracking me onto of everything is better, its more just I'm trying to find out if the work flow change, all the tinkering and the things I'm missing out on be worth it for the extra privacy.

Feel like I've taken the red pill (and not in a stupid jokey meme politics way) I more mean that that I've seen what Linux can offer I can see that it really is a pretty viable choice I just am not sure if its for me (yet)

[GodEmperorDoge]

Don't mean to necro this post but I just wanted to add to this.

I've been a Linux only user since about 2015 and this is one of the few times I see the developer of a windows game actually interact with Linux players and help with debugging and stuff. So Squid you are absolutely GOATed.

I came across this because I was researching how viable VR is on Linux at the moment since I might get a valve index sometime next year.

What I wanted to add to this is that in the time I've been using only Linux I've really seen how much stuff has changed for Linux in gaming and GPUs in general. If you asked me about gaming on Linux a few years ago I would have said to give up on your dreams because basically at the time the only thing you could play was Dota 2 and Team Fortress 2. Maybe CS:GO. There were other games that "supported" Linux but were absolutely unbearable to play. Now almost any game can run on proton pretty smoothly and with little effort to make it work.

Lahvendur, I agree that using Linux is a sacrifice even now but it's a sacrifice I made out of love for Linux. For me personally it has paid off to see how much it has improved and to truly experience and understand what is happening in the development. But I don't think everyone needs to be as invested as I am. I'm just happy to make a sacrifice like that.

I don't ask people to just make that sacrifice and switch over. But any time you log in and try some games on Linux it helps move it forward some more. It's hard for things to improve if nobody is testing and talking about the current state of games and software. Community discussion and interaction is what drives open source in the end.

Also there's nothing wrong with dual booting just to play a few games on windows. I used to do that in 2015 where I had 2 hard drives and would switch to windows to play this stupid anime mmo with my buddies. I don't think you sacrifice much privacy by dual booting in that sense it just depends how much data you are putting on your windows partition. Dual booting is better than not trying it at all if you really wanna give Linux a chance.

With that being said I will continue to use and test vrchat on proton despite the drawbacks and I'll keep an eye on the proton/wine development and see if it gets fixed. I'll also try my best to get it to work well in VR.

[Artemis3]

I do the sacrifice because otherwise they will never pay us any attention.
This game runs (in Desktop), but it crashes after a while, after changing a couple of worlds. Whatever thread handles the avatars tends to fail first, unless you just default not displaying avatars by default then it lasts much longer, then its the one that handles the worlds, and you are trapped in the world you are left in, it eventually crashes on its own later, and spends ages dumping something, pure waste of time and needless disk writes. Unity is supposed to support Linux, whats with using Proton anyway? I have not used windows since 2007, either a game works, or i move on. I would consider this half there, it works, but has serious issues.
PS: I don't even care about the video players not working at all.