vrchat is dead its only private rooms now ( not clickbait or joke or being toxic )

[omarxz11]

seriously tho , its not about steam chart if you check how much people in say the great pug for example or any other map you will find out 90% of people are in private which mean only 10% of people you can interact with and chat and meet with new people except they are very few and tons of them just have boring talk or just kids


we all remember there was tons of good and fun people to talk with and meet new people , i don't hold anything against private rooms but to say the game is a live and doing fine is just BS since it means these 90% of playerbase is pretty much non-exist since you cannot interact with them whatsoever


PS: another thing kills the game is if my memory serve me well the room used to have like 50 or 40 people per room or so not remember and make the place more alive , and believe it or not garry mod seems 300% more alive than current VRchat that we have compare to old one when it used to be fun , now its just souless

[H3Lb3NT]

I do have an idea that these people staying in private worlds are streamers that stand in front of a mirror or in a group where everyone talks, or just people that have social anxiety when it comes to talk to people. If they go in a public world they will most likely have an attack because most public worlds have weird a$$ people. Or are just people that want to show their avatar to a friend in privacy, or if there should be a reason to not make the things go a bit further in this reply, there might be people that make nude avatars (fully naked) because if they go in a public world, they will sure likely get in touch with one of the devs which will lead that VRC account to an end (banned).

Not saying that people that make fully naked avatars are bad, but doing this kind of avatars can lead to huge sanctions.

[TwIsT [S9N]]

Originally posted by MaDGM:

I do have an idea that these people staying in private worlds are streamers that stand in front of a mirror or in a group where everyone talks, or just people that have social anxiety when it comes to talk to people. If they go in a public world they will most likely have an attack because most public worlds have weird a$$ people. Or are just people that want to show their avatar to a friend in privacy, or if there should be a reason to not make the things go a bit further in this reply, there might be people that make nude avatars (fully naked) because if they go in a public world, they will sure likely get in touch with one of the devs which will lead that VRC account to an end (banned).

Not saying that people that make fully naked avatars are bad, but doing this kind of avatars can lead to huge sanctions.

The only regulations on fully nude avatars is that they cannot be used in non-private world instances, nor streamed or recorded to any publicly accessible site --specifically because the VRChat dev team are trying to protect the overall reputation of VRChat as all-ages-friendly. That's precisely why the Youtube series "Sexy Sundays" was shut down --because the videos were posted to Youtube and gave the impression that VRChat was adults-only due to the content being basically strippers dancing, using full body tracking to make it super-accurate in as far as movements.

Truth be told, this has all been a double-edged sword of sorts. Being 47 and totally into that sort of thing, I was a big fan of Sexy Sundays, and hated to see it go. But I understand both sides of the argument, both of wanting to keep their network open for all ages and for the creators of adult content wanting to be able to publish it. The outcome effect was that it drove a lot of long-time users underground, forcing them to go private in order to keep using VRChat as they saw fit.

That said, I've seen plenty of nights where VRChat seemed dead, and plenty where it was alive and well and I had a blast. But, then really, that's the way of any social technology --it has ebbs and flows like anything driven organically by the users that come there. Just recently, for example, I met a person that lives just 30 minutes away from where I live, and we ended up chatting for easily 3 hours and exchanged friend-requests before leaving for the night. The way I look at it, like anything worth doing, you'll get out of it what you put into it. If you put in the effort to establish a presence there, regularly, you'll make friends and find your own place there... alternatively, if one just shows up now and then and really doesn't try to find a community with people that they can chat with that fit their own personality type, that's on them, not VRChat, nor on the users that have been there long enough to have their own private communities built up.

As for the OP... all I can say is that if you're in a place like The Pug and it's full of people that are getting on your nerves (like some of them often do with my own), simply pick a different instance of that world and see who's there. At any given time, the menu should show up to at least 5 instance of any highly populated world. Also, keep in mind that most of the users in pub worlds are new users, or newer at least, like yourself. They're just as likely still learning not only about VRChat, but internet/VR social etiquette as well. Certainly, a lot of them are hard headed kids that don't listen to ♥♥♥♥, but some are intelligent people just goofing off... talk to them and find out... or don't. But trying to change them is a losing battle --they need to see for themselves why they need to change, then they will... like anyone.

[TwIsT [S9N]]

The summary of the summary: The Private worlds are full of established users, be they streamers, content creators, or otherwise. The pub worlds are all newer users that have not yet established or otherwise become part of one of VRChat's great-many communities. It's basically become far too large and popular overall to exist with the same sort of usage model that it had in it's early days because having that many users utilizing as many capabilities as the system now supports for avatars and world features/functions would cause such a drain on server-side resources that it would become completely unplayable by even the most powerful of systems. The devs have naturally had to shrink down the max-occupancy of worlds to accommodate the increase in the number of overall users (usually around 6000 or more, 24/7 now, with burst of over 18000 on any given day).

[disclaimer: I do not work for VRChat, but I do develop complex avatars that I test and use there, outside of working a 40+ hour week in Gov IT as a sysadmin. When I use VRChat, I primarily use pub worlds because my work schedule combined with everything else going on in my life hasn't left me much time to build a permanent group there that uses private worlds... but I've also been on VRChat fairly regularly since November 2018, and do keep up with the development side of things as well as a great number of other content creators. That's given me the perspective that I have on it, but it's just one opinion of many, so take it for what it's worth.]

[CasualtyListed]

Here's a question for you instead of your VR Chat is dead statement. Why is VR Chat dead/dying?

Speaking as someone who is very rarely in private rooms, and constantly in highly populated worlds. I can say the game has been dead for a long time, minor improvements are overshadowed by rampant hacking. It's a philosophy to the company, it would seem to have such little involvement in their own project. If anything a great view into customer support of Valve itself over the years. People begging to end bugs and hacking only for every patch to be ran over with more like new asphalt to the potholed road.

Every time I log on, I see hundreds in The Great Pug, Black Cat, Murder 2. Scroll about and that tanks pretty harshly. I don't know if there is a limit on how many worlds you can actively view at one point in time, but I am assured from my hours of playing it's nowhere near entirely all private. If it is, I would recommend looking at different worlds. If you feel this level of outcast maybe it's you as well?

I've been hacked, I've been crashed, I've been DDoSed. In this game more alone more than my entire time playing games in my life. That includes the launch of ESO, WoW, R6:S, every CoD prior to BO2, RuneScape and if I wanted to make this list longer I most certainly can... The point is, I'm in public worlds. Why? Honestly it used to be the means of meeting new people and trying to make some new friends. Now though, I can barely stand looking at this game. I get it all too well if someone was trolling, but when people are literally gate keeping people out of the game by crashing them as soon as or even before they join a world.. Where's the penalty at? What stops the next person from coming up to me with a bomb threat? In real life, my guns and aim does. In VR Chat...Nothing. Hell if I wanted to I can take a ban or two and bypass easily. IP Bans are the easiest thing to break. Account bans means make a new account. HWID bans a little tougher depending on your financial situation, but can be solved mostly as easily as swapping hardware in your PC. MAC Address bans, bit harder, but not impossible. Lawsuits though, now that puts people in corners they can't get out of.

Reality sucks. Some people are like me or worse, they saw some good and got more of the bad then they did the good. Oh well. If you think you can do better, it's not that hard to make the game. Afterall there's several clients made, if someone can break into that code, making the game under a different name with stricter rules and terms would you even call it a new home?

[Kaschperle]

I can tell u one thing it's not ded atleast not for me most people are boring and thats why u are there to shacke them and they become somewhat entertaiment. I had this small talk at my lifestream at the ens of it where we made fun of privat elobby only user xD. And i met this guy in a public world. I don't want to insult u or smt but maybe ur just boring.

[ARC-5555]

If anything, VRChat is growing over the last couple months and will only increase as the next couple months pass with Half-Life: Alyx coming out.

[Mush]

Originally posted by MaDGM:

I do have an idea that these people staying in private worlds are streamers that stand in front of a mirror or in a group where everyone talks, or just people that have social anxiety when it comes to talk to people. If they go in a public world they will most likely have an attack because most public worlds have weird a$$ people. Or are just people that want to show their avatar to a friend in privacy, or if there should be a reason to not make the things go a bit further in this reply, there might be people that make nude avatars (fully naked) because if they go in a public world, they will sure likely get in touch with one of the devs which will lead that VRC account to an end (banned).

Not saying that people that make fully naked avatars are bad, but doing this kind of avatars can lead to huge sanctions.

True.

[X e r 0]

This is probably because of hackers.

[AppleTherapy]

Originally posted by omarxz11:

seriously tho , its not about steam chart if you check how much people in say the great pug for example or any other map you will find out 90% of people are in private which mean only 10% of people you can interact with and chat and meet with new people except they are very few and tons of them just have boring talk or just kids


we all remember there was tons of good and fun people to talk with and meet new people , i don't hold anything against private rooms but to say the game is a live and doing fine is just BS since it means these 90% of playerbase is pretty much non-exist since you cannot interact with them whatsoever


PS: another thing kills the game is if my memory serve me well the room used to have like 50 or 40 people per room or so not remember and make the place more alive , and believe it or not garry mod seems 300% more alive than current VRchat that we have compare to old one when it used to be fun , now its just souless

I definitely noticed that. Thats why stopped playing this.

[BCS]

Originally posted by AppleTherapy:

Originally posted by omarxz11:

seriously tho , its not about steam chart if you check how much people in say the great pug for example or any other map you will find out 90% of people are in private which mean only 10% of people you can interact with and chat and meet with new people except they are very few and tons of them just have boring talk or just kids


we all remember there was tons of good and fun people to talk with and meet new people , i don't hold anything against private rooms but to say the game is a live and doing fine is just BS since it means these 90% of playerbase is pretty much non-exist since you cannot interact with them whatsoever


PS: another thing kills the game is if my memory serve me well the room used to have like 50 or 40 people per room or so not remember and make the place more alive , and believe it or not garry mod seems 300% more alive than current VRchat that we have compare to old one when it used to be fun , now its just souless

I definitely noticed that. Thats why stopped playing this.

So I should be finding private friends and private servers? TIL.

[omarxz11]

Originally posted by ButtercupSaiyan:

Originally posted by AppleTherapy:

I definitely noticed that. Thats why stopped playing this.

So I should be finding private friends and private servers? TIL.

the better question is why not using discord voice chat instead ?? the whole point of social game is to meet new people and socialize with them not same private people you know ,but you can't do that now in public cuz community change over time sadly and its not the same people if i would guess i would say majority of them already bored and quit and other new people replaced them but not the same vrchat mentality

[moron (fets luck)]

Then don't play?

[BCS]

Originally posted by vomit:

Then don't play?

LOL, QFT.

[omarxz11]

Originally posted by vomit:

Then don't play?

your picture and name say it all lol

[elmerfudd4]

people stay in private room with friends because of hackers and trolls especially streamers because people like to yell things while there in the room streaming that could get them banned.