The main character is a nun?

[Pyromaniac]

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[Erpy]

One of the main characters. The actual main character is Kevin, the priest who was already a party member in the second game. Ries (the nun) is introduced as a playable character in this game and is kind of a deuteragonist.

[Fuepepe]

This game focuses on the Septian Church, so naturally Kevins sidekick is a Squire, yes.

[Monterossa]

A priest and a nun. I'm not a religious guy so it's kinda boring for me. And this whole Sora-Zero-Ao-Sen seems to respect this Aidios religion so damn much. In other JRPGs, the religious people are the bad guys and the god is the final boss that we have to kill.

[pibedetorres]

Escrito originalmente por Monterossa:

A priest and a nun. I'm not a religious guy so it's kinda boring for me. And this whole Sora-Zero-Ao-Sen seems to respect this Aidios religion so damn much. In other JRPGs, the religious people are the bad guys and the god is the final boss that we have to kill.

Oh noes, Falcom is trying to convert you! Quick, go play Chrono Trigger and kill some nuns in there to restore the balance!

[shingetterjehuty]

Escrito originalmente por Monterossa:

A priest and a nun. I'm not a religious guy so it's kinda boring for me. And this whole Sora-Zero-Ao-Sen seems to respect this Aidios religion so damn much. In other JRPGs, the religious people are the bad guys and the god is the final boss that we have to kill.

That's exactly why it's refreshing. Trails treats religion with respect a lot of RPGs, even Western ones, don't. The Septian Church is a fact of life and religion's a normal thing that's not overly intrusive into people's everyday occurrences.

[Missilepom]

The Septian Church is never potrayed as a homogenous mass of benevolence or evil in this series. The fact that people like the kind clergy of Liberl's churches and a cold blooded executioner like Kevin exist in the same organization (and even work together in many instances in SC) should clue you in on that.

[Erpy]

Even if the Septian religion doesn't interest you, the church's role in Zemuria should. They're extremely influential and low-key at the same time. They run elementary school-grade education in Zemuria, act as semi-hospitals and play the role of observer and mediator in diplomatic situations. They also hoard artifacts and they're not afraid to send guys like Kevin after people who refuse to turn them over. And when people like Kevin get deployed, it's considered a big friggin deal. And their top warriors can go toe to toe with Ouroboros' stronger enforcers.

I'm not seeing how that's boring.

[Meredius]

Think like Illuminatti or some such groups who wield a lot of power behind the scenes. Even the Guild is more complex and nuanced (they have a certain map in FC)...

And every group or person is doing the right thing in their own mind and for their own reasons. Their intent is there. Wether we agree with it or not.... :)

Looking forward to this! I like Kevin from SC.

[nonamen]

What's interesting for me is that Trails can survive even if you remove the characters since the story focuses on the events and the progression of the world, of course the characters are still needed otherwise no one would act out the things we see. Still its unique in a way that we don't get some deus ex machina that has to train to obtain the ultimate move that will save the world from eternal damnation.

[Monterossa]

Not only that this series is promoting religions but it's kinda pro conservative as well.

CS1&2 spoilers:

In Cold Steel, there's a class system and the game made it that people are ok with it. Machias, the guy who's anti the nobles was portrayed like a goofball extremist who needs to be corrected later, they made him accept that not all the nobles are bad and admitted that it was his fault for not bowing down to the great nobles.

At first I thought they're gonna rebel and destroy the whole class system, but no, there's a war between two groups of conservatives. Tyranny oldschool conservatives versus Royalists.... dammit. The game doesn't let me choose which side I want to join (siding with poops or vomits). They tried to act like a third party but ended up helping the royal family and the anarchist prime minister anyway so it's pointless. I ended up helping the power hunger people gain even more power. dafuq?

This series is full of pro anarchism government. You're either a police or a military cadet, serving the higher ups til the end and you don't get to rebel against them, just do your jobs, taking orders, and report back for some grades.

There's also sexism characters, like Estelle hating on Olivier because he's "a man who like other men", Instructor Neidhart who got pizzed off because female students swim faster than male students.

[Mr. Manual]

Escrito originalmente por Monterossa:

Not only that this series is promoting religions but it's kinda pro conservative as well.

CS1&2 spoilers:

In Cold Steel, there's a class system and the game made it that people are ok with it. Machias, the guy who's anti the nobles was portrayed like a goofball extremist who needs to be corrected later, they made him accept that not all the nobles are bad and admitted that it was his fault for not bowing down to the great nobles.

At first I thought they're gonna rebel and destroy the whole class system, but no, there's a war between two groups of conservatives. Tyranny oldschool conservatives versus Royalists.... dammit. The game doesn't let me choose which side I want to join (siding with poops or vomits). They tried to act like a third party but ended up helping the royal family and the anarchist prime minister anyway so it's pointless. I ended up helping the power hunger people gain even more power. dafuq?

This series is full of pro anarchism government. You're either a police or a military cadet, serving the higher ups til the end and you don't get to rebel against them, just do your jobs, taking orders, and report back for some grades.

There's also sexism characters, like Estelle hating on Olivier because he's "a man who like other men", Instructor Neidhart who got pizzed off because female students swim faster than male students.

Not like this is really spoilery, but if you really wanted an alert, spoiler tags exist, you know.

[Id3alistic]

So no chance of Ries being a waifu.

[Rumi]

Escrito originalmente por Monterossa:

A priest and a nun. I'm not a religious guy so it's kinda boring for me.

I'm not a world traveling bounty hunter. Being a bracer is boring for me.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Escrito originalmente por Monterossa:

Not only that this series is promoting religions but it's kinda pro conservative as well.

Yeah, Erebonia does have the whole "aryans are the master race" thing going for it. Most of the nobles are blonde haired, blue/green eyed.

I recall reading some dialogue in one of the CS games that referenced the Albarea family as "looking noble", and I take that is they all have blonde hair and eyes of a lighter color than brown.

There's also sexism characters, like Estelle hating on Olivier because he's "a man who like other men", Instructor Neidhart who got pizzed off because female students swim faster than male students.

Oliver likes females. So he's not exactly gay. He comes across more as the "sometimes acts gay for trolling purposes" kinda guy. He's either straight or bi with a preference toward females.

[Senoinya Aumeriyal'e]

Escrito originalmente por Monterossa:

Not only that this series is promoting religions but it's kinda pro conservative as well.

CS1&2 spoilers:

In Cold Steel, there's a class system and the game made it that people are ok with it. Machias, the guy who's anti the nobles was portrayed like a goofball extremist who needs to be corrected later, they made him accept that not all the nobles are bad and admitted that it was his fault for not bowing down to the great nobles.

At first I thought they're gonna rebel and destroy the whole class system, but no, there's a war between two groups of conservatives. Tyranny oldschool conservatives versus Royalists.... dammit. The game doesn't let me choose which side I want to join (siding with poops or vomits). They tried to act like a third party but ended up helping the royal family and the anarchist prime minister anyway so it's pointless. I ended up helping the power hunger people gain even more power. dafuq?

This series is full of pro anarchism government. You're either a police or a military cadet, serving the higher ups til the end and you don't get to rebel against them, just do your jobs, taking orders, and report back for some grades.

There's also sexism characters, like Estelle hating on Olivier because he's "a man who like other men", Instructor Neidhart who got pizzed off because female students swim faster than male students.

So every story (or at least JRPG story) should be anti-religion, only have one type of politics (aka: anti-conservative), and characters aren't allowed to bear any sort of opinions/thoughts that may be seen as offensive by some special snowflake out there. Every story must be more or less the same, because if they dare do anything different from the norm, they're doing something wrong.

Got it. Thanks for letting me know I should be glad you're not in charge of anything.

Also, like crimsonedge said, Olivier isn't gay. He acts that way sometimes, but there's no question that he likes females. Whether that's for trolling purposes exclusively or because he's actually bi remains to be known, but he's not gay.